Blackwing Order Tracking - 2022 Model Year

Well...shit...I tried deleting a couple posts out of the old order tracking thread and I apparently nuked the whole damn thread!

NOTE: the order tracking system is for U.S. based orders only. I can only view orders placed with dealers in the U.S.
NOTE: I will only track ONE order per member. If you have orders in at multiple dealers, pick one...

Blackwing Order Tracking System​

Blackwing Registry​

 

[Teutonaddict]

All orders have been checked and updated accordingly.

Please add me to your list when able. Thanks! CBMNN3

 

[fmusignac]

My 5BW is on a truck and on the road, possibly here this afternoon!!!
Edit: This isn’t by pure luck or accident. Without getting into the details, I had to work hard to get them to fulfill this New Year’s miracle. Now to hope the rest goes smoothly. I already had a snafu with a winter wheel coming damaged from TireRack, but they are evidently making it right.

 

[dribs15]

My 5BW is on a truck and on the road, possibly here this afternoon!!!

 

[ZoomieZoom55]

My 5BW is on a truck and on the road, possibly here this afternoon!!!
Edit: This isn’t by pure luck or accident. Without getting into the details, I had to work hard to get them to fulfill this New Year’s miracle. Now to hope the rest goes smoothly. I already had a snafu with a winter wheel coming damaged from TireRack, but they are evidently making it right.

 

[Exia]

My 5BW is on a truck and on the road, possibly here this afternoon!!!
Edit: This isn’t by pure luck or accident. Without getting into the details, I had to work hard to get them to fulfill this New Year’s miracle. Now to hope the rest goes smoothly. I already had a snafu with a winter wheel coming damaged from TireRack, but they are evidently making it right.

My 5BW was built a week after yours, maybe I'll be getting an update in the first half of January...

 

[fmusignac]

Someone’s excited! Hopefully delivery day goes well and I don’t have to keep the same outfit on for weeks!
Edit: I obviously got a bit too excited and may have to wait a bit longer. Between being Friday and the time the truck will get there, the dealer isn’t sure they’ll have time for PDI. Waited this long so it’ll be fine but will try to push even if I have to give those workers a little bonus.

 

[ArgentWing]

I just finished a conversation with the chat bot at Cadillac.com. I chatted with a representative, Kiara. She informed me that the status of my car is at 4000. I'm excited by this news as the status hasn't changed from 4D00 since the car was built on September 14th. I'm definitely not holding my breath but this is the first sign of encouragement I've experienced thus far. Fingers are crossed

 

[fmusignac]

Hey all! P0860194 was delivered today! @Rob you can remove me from the tracker. What an amazing and complete car. 50 miles in.

 

[ArgentWing]

Hey all! P0860194 was delivered today! @Rob you can remove me from the tracker. What an amazing and complete car. 50 miles in.

That's awesome! Congratulations!!!

 

[Commonman]

My 5BW is on a truck and on the road, possibly here this afternoon!!!
Edit: This isn’t by pure luck or accident. Without getting into the details, I had to work hard to get them to fulfill this New Year’s miracle. Now to hope the rest goes smoothly. I already had a snafu with a winter wheel coming damaged from TireRack, but they are evidently making it right.

First of all I am thrilled that you were able to get your 5BW. That fact your car was built 18 days after mine makes me wonder what you were able to do that involved "hard work"on your part to get that car in your garage. A bunch of us out here would be willing to do more to get these d*mn cars out of the GM lots if we had a connection that would work. Between calling my dealer, Autoport and Cadillac customer care multiple times and getting the same old "it appears your car is ready to ship and we are just waiting to get a driver to pick it up" ect. I am out of ideas. I was even told 2 months ago by Autoport that my car would be designated "hot" and get high priority on the shipping ladder. Ha Haa!!! They gotta love saying that line to the naive elderly goat herder who keeps bugging them. What really drives me crazy is I keep talking to people who make 4 and 5 figures and yet some 7 figure bonus drawing mucky-muck can't even take the time to write a memo to his or her frustrated customer base explaining what the heck is going on. A customer base that is working harder to give them 100K for their cars than they are working to fix the problem of getting that car to the customer. The C8 corvette management team would never neglect their customer base the way the lowly goat herders have been treated. I don't think the corvette team would allow their top salesman to inform new customers they should expect to do $2000 of paint correction on brand new factory delivered 100k cars. That's a pretty low bar. Hope Cadillac can raise their bar in 2023 and aspire to do better.

 

[Exia]

First of all I am thrilled that you were able to get your 5BW. That fact your car was built 18 days after mine makes me wonder what you were able to do that involved "hard work"on your part to get that car in your garage. A bunch of us out here would be willing to do more to get these d*mn cars out of the GM lots if we had a connection that would work. Between calling my dealer, Autoport and Cadillac customer care multiple times and getting the same old "it appears your car is ready to ship and we are just waiting to get a driver to pick it up" ect. I am out of ideas. I was even told 2 months ago by Autoport that my car would be designated "hot" and get high priority on the shipping ladder. Ha Haa!!! They gotta love saying that line to the naive elderly goat herder who keeps bugging them. What really drives me crazy is I keep talking to people who make 4 and 5 figures and yet some 7 figure bonus drawing mucky-muck can't even take the time to write a memo to his or her frustrated customer base explaining what the heck is going on. A customer base that is working harder to give them 100K for their cars than they are working to fix the problem of getting that car to the customer. The C8 corvette management team would never neglect their customer base the way the lowly goat herders have been treated. I don't think the corvette team would allow their top salesman to inform new customers they should expect to do $2000 of paint correction on brand new factory delivered 100k cars. That's a pretty low bar. Hope Cadillac can raise their bar in 2023 and aspire to do better.

I'd agree with this. I've said before many many pages back on how the shortages and terrible delivery times on the Blackwings, a Cadillac product, which should be one of GM's highest priority products is being put to the sidelines compared to the Corvette. All we're looking for is a "why".

Why does it take 3 months minimum to receive a Blackwing after its been built and it takes 2 weeks to see a Corvette. I don't care if it takes 6 months, I just want to know the reason because it starts to leave a bad taste when all you here is "We don't know", from customer service, the dealership or even the transport company for months on end with no change to the order status.

It absolutely shouldn't be like this, I understand shit happens in this environment but to not even tell us the reason is ridiculous. Maybe if the Blackwing had a Corvette badge all of our expectations would be met.

Hopefully things shape up for 2023.

 

[Commonman]

This is what you get from Mike Furman the "Corvette King" if your a customer of his.

*No email response back to this newsletter please and thank you.* Dec 31st 2022

Happy New Year...

The often raised question as to when the 2023 production year would end, we do not have any idea. GM has had for several years as its annual goal to return to its normal production cycle, which up until recently was starting to produce the next model year in around July/August. Yet, as of now we do not having any information as to when would the 2023 model year end and the 2024 model year would start. We will know only that after GM formally announces that to its dealers or in public press releases. Within minutes of that formal press release, as “John” the leader of MidEngineCorvetteForum is GM media certified and thus gets as they are published the official GM press releases, MECF would immediately post that information. That is a good forum for you to visit. I go there daily to read owner’s comments, see pictures of their new C8’s, and enjoy the constructive, helpful to owners, and in short their positive environment.
Meanwhile as you read this, GM already made 20,975, 2023 Stingrays. Demand for the Stingray continues to remain strong. I still have many hundreds on my customer time-and-date stamped list; demand for the Stingray is far from falling off. The C8 Corvette is a world class sports car and well worth the wait!
~I have delivered 5,793 Corvettes over the span of 45+ years as of Dec 31st 2022 . #6,000 should occur late Sping/Summer 2023.

There was a surprise Christmas Day E-Ray playing in the snow video video. It starts out with the video of the E-Ray which GM’s President Mark Reuss showed us on CNBC last April, but then it adds a little more at its end. Here is that video, as then good discussion of this nice Christmas present: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.com/forum/mid-engine-corvettes/mid-engine-exterior-interior-pictures-and-renderings/441784-awd-e-ray-playing-in-the-snow

Mid EngineCorvetteForum’s artist PeterC-Pixels came up with a “real,” life-like digital E-Ray rendering. He created his rendering not just based on the GM E-Ray video mentioned noted above, but also from his taking detailed measurements from the E-Ray mules we have seen testing — and of course all of us realizing that GM build each next version on the last one. That rendering would make a good wallpaper for your phone or your compute if you are excited about the E-Ray: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.com/forum/mid-engine-corvettes/c8-e-ray-powertrain/437115-%E2%80%9Creal%E2%80%9D-e-ray

Which brings us to the major question of when will be the E-Ray’s formal reveal. That is not known at this time. We hope for the it reveal mid 2023 to start answering all the current questions about it. But until GM officially announces when and where, while that is fun to speculate upon, it still just guessing.
A Z06 owner, who goes by the name of “John006” who has 1,000 miles on his was recently interviewed by www.MidEngineCorvetteForum.com (MECF). Here are his impressions and comments: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.com/forum/me-discussion-photos-videos/442363-1-000-z06-miles-interview-of-%E2%80%9Djohn006%E2%80%9D

After 600 miles, another Z06 new owner with a different background just shared with MECF his 600 mile review (including his comparisons with his earlier own McLaren 720S) https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.com/forum/me-discussion-photos-videos/442636-my-600-mile-z06-review

Meanwhile not to be outdone, the C8 Stingrays continues to receive high praise in its own right, e.g. these two recent two (2) Stingray awards/accolades:
*https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.com/forum/me-discussion-photos-videos/438258-stingray-best-car-i-drove-in-2022-edmunds

* https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.com/forum/me-discussion-photos-videos/439947-2023-chevrolet-corvette-car-and-driver-10best

Z06 news: Meanwhile what is happening on the Z06 front? One new option was just revealed, e.g., body-colored trim option code “EFY” that some chose on their C8 Stingrays and on their C7’s too. That option should start with the next Z06 allocation batch 1st quarter 2023.
There could well be one major additional Z06 option officially becoming available for the February/March Z06 allocation process, the availability of the Engine Build option, “PBC” (Performance Build Center) for those orders. This would be consistent with BGA Plant Director Kai Spande’s Corvette Museum “BGA Update” seminar on September 1st when he announced that starting in the “second quarter of 2023 the build your own engine program would begin.” What would be option “PBC’s price? It was $5,000 during the C7 generation but building the LT6, as it is a dual overhead camshaft motor, is taking engine the PBC Engine Assembly Technicians more time to build than either the supercharged C7 Z06 and ZR1 engines did. All info to be announced by GM 1st qtr 2023.

How much power is the Z06 really producing? We know GM uses the SAE testing method, their taking five routinely-build LT6’s, putting each of them on the dyno, throwing out the highest and the lowest one’s results, and then averaging the three remaining ones. That process showed that the LT6 produces 670 HP. However, we have seen on dyno testing recently showing as much as 640 REAR wheel HP and a second one showing 611 REAR wheel HP. My opinion is that as GM stated and as GM SAE certified, 670 engine HP for the LT6, and therefore ABOUT 600 RWHP. As all of us who have been gear heads for decades know, individual dyno tests of individual cars are always going to have wide variability numbers due to each dyno being different, weather conditions (including but not limited to temperature, humidity, altitude, barometric pressure), let alone whether the dyno operators choose and employ “SAE smoothing” as their measuring standard, and more. Thus individual dyno tests will always result in different numbers. I am sticking with what GM published as part of its SAE compliance testing procedures, e.g. 670 HP at the engine.

ZR1 testing: Is it in process? Based on GM President Mark Reuss’ comments about two Corvette performance models coming in the 2024 model year, it COULD well be that he was referring to the E-Ray and the ZR1. But again, having been at this for five decades, I await GM’s official announcement of every upcoming model’s reveal date.

My personal quote to all Corvette enthusiasts on future product...

I spent every Summer with Zora Duntov from 1978-1990 at Malcolm Konner Auto and every time I inquired about future product he would say...

"Rumors sell magazines, not cars"
-Zora Arkus Duntov

Mike Furman
National Corvette Specialist
Criswell Chevrolet
301-212-4420 Direct
503 Quince Orchard Rd.
Gaithersburg, MD 20878
mfurman@criswellauto.com
www.CorvetteFurman.com
He will sell any new corvette model made to anyone, any where in the country (at MSRP). Spoke to him yesterday and he said from the time your corvette order hits status 2000 till delivery is 8-9 weeks. One week after produced shipped and at your dealer. It's just a night and day different commitment to the customer. Plenty of 65k corvette buyers treated like kings, plenty of 115k Blackwing buyers treated like begging goat herders. Maybe we are all too self deprecating on this board. I got to believe that some of us are highly successful people who want to be treated with some measure of respect during the process. I definitely got more respect and dignity during my last colonoscopy than from Cadillac management.

 

[Speed Racer 007]

Hey all! P0860194 was delivered today! @Rob you can remove me from the tracker. What an amazing and complete car. 50 miles in.

CONGRATS!

 

[Commonman]

Congratulations!!!!! #117 still rotting in a GM lot in DTW. No MP- No constraints- No plan- No commitment-No answers-No end in sight. Navel- gazing at the highest level.

 

[rubberduck]

I definitely got more respect and dignity during my last colonoscopy than from Cadillac management.

Good write up. Most the time I don’t read posts this long, but this one was definitely worth reading.

My sphincter got a good workout during my BW purchase process. Who is your GI doc and does he sell Blackwings?

 

[Worldrider]

You’d think (hope) the Cadillac buying experience would be far superior to the Chevy version. The Standard of the World should be on par with Lexus and the Germans.
Or at least Buick.
It now seems like the best way to manage expectations is to simply have none.
The Z06 is luring Porsche faithful. The CT5-V Blackwing is conquering E63 and M5 owners. The product is amazing. But if GM can’t deliver (on expectations or just the damn product on time) they’ll lose loyalty, and any future sales.
It’s so difficult to build excitement for a car. It shouldn’t be so hard to just build the car now…

 

[Speed Racer 007]

The product is amazing. But if GM can’t deliver (on expectations or just the damn product on time) they’ll lose loyalty, and any future sales.

Highly doubt this, plenty of car people on this planet that will deal with the bullshit to get what they want. I'm pretty sure 90% of us on this forum fit that bill, I know I do.

 

[rubberduck]

Highly doubt this, plenty of car people on this planet that will deal with the bullshit to get what they want. I'm pretty sure 90% of us on this forum fit that bill, I know I do.

Anything worth while in life requires hard work. It’s actually good they are difficult to obtain, it weeds out the pretenders. If you like easy, this isn’t the job for you.

 

[Deneed4spd]

Anything worth while in life requires hard work. It’s actually good they are difficult to obtain, it weeds out the pretenders. If you like easy, this isn’t the job for you.

Not sure getting a blackwing out of goat pen is considered hard work. More like subpar work on GMs side. If there was a correlation between hard work and getting a BW, zoomie zoom which stared at his status 5x a day would have gotten one the same day he placed an ordwr

 

[G.Newt]

@Rob You can remove me from the tracker (BXVB0B), picked up a used 2022 Rift Metallic 6-speed with CF1/2 and full car PPF.