rubberduck
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If I had a 10 I’d probably use it a lot differently.
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On track I've been super impressed with the autoboxes on M cars and Hyundai's N cars, you really can let the car do the shifting and just drive, but ya 10 gears for sporty road driving I do wonder?As far as performance I am very happy with the A10, however I do think 10 gears is a little much. So many up/downshifts. I think 8 is about the max.
On track I've been super impressed with the autoboxes on M cars and Hyundai's N cars, you really can let the car do the shifting and just drive, but ya 10 gears for sporty road driving I do wonder?
Is it going up and down constantly if you are on a run of 20mph to 80mph twisties and straights? I am guessing you can mitigate that with your driving modes some?
Hyundai N cars are DCT so it's not really the same comparison. If it's a last gen M car it's also a DCT. I will give bmw props though they do impressive tuning on the ZF8 but I still wouldn't choose it over a manual or DCT if they gave me a choice.On track I've been super impressed with the autoboxes on M cars and Hyundai's N cars, you really can let the car do the shifting and just drive, but ya 10 gears for sporty road driving I do wonder?
Is it going up and down constantly if you are on a run of 20mph to 80mph twisties and straights? I am guessing you can mitigate that with your driving modes some?
The Escalade V is so cool! I want one but can't afford it at the moment! I got to see and hear the pre production one at Daytona this year and it was
Again, both tranny's are fantastic in different ways (I personally said that already several different ways, several times im sure) for different people, just conversation no "hidden agenda"? I was impressed at how you can move the Esky V with the powertrain GM/CADDY came up with, not me. And I'm more impressed with how it works in my car. That's it, just conversation.Oooh, I love a thinly veiled transmission choice thread where we rehash all the tired reasons we think our choice is the best...no actually I don't, but y'all carry on.
Driving engagement with the M6 stands alone, you are the "driver".... I'm glad to get a feel for the "temp" of the owners out there the have an A10 and share feedback and off course, enjoy the feedback of the M6 folks which have experience in one or both! It's all in the family!It has too many gears to really enjoy paddle shifting but the shift programming when left in auto mode is excellent. The A10 shifts extremely quick and smooth. The gearing is tightly spaced and keeps you in boost.
The A10 and just about all new automatic transmissions are technically better (quicker, smoother, better fuel economy, etc.) than the M6 with the exception of driving engagement. For many enthusiasts the connection is too much to give up in a performance car.
Fair point on the N and M2C - but the interaction is the same and to me DCTs are totally autoboxes, but we can leave that for bimmerpost It was the G80 and M5C as well, so the ZF8.Hyundai N cars are DCT so it's not really the same comparison. If it's a last gen M car it's also a DCT. I will give bmw props though they do impressive tuning on the ZF8 but I still wouldn't choose it over a manual or DCT if they gave me a choice.
At least it's not Lexus tuning. I hated the transmission tuning in the RC F for any remotely sporty driving
I Agree? Haven't "really" tracked my car yet, you need a good stretch to get "value" out of the 8 thru 10. Did zip around with both at the Caddy experience several times however, not enough asphalt at those events to get the full effect of both. Work will come from the first 6 shifts for sure in the A10 when pressed hard. From a driveability standpoint daily, in "auto" it's just purrs along with no stress...Big thing here is traffic.....I guess, the Esky V in performance mode just left an impression on me.As far as performance I am very happy with the A10, however I do think 10 gears is a little much. So many up/downshifts. I think 8 is about the max.
I have owned both in multiple GM vehicles. There really is no right or wrong, they are both great. It just depends on how you use the car and what you want the experience to be. I know some folks that bought a C8 with the DCT and now they are bored.Driving engagement with the M6 stands alone, you are the "driver".... I'm glad to get a feel for the "temp" of the owners out there the have an A10 and share feedback and off course, enjoy the feedback of the M6 folks which have experience in one or both! It's all in the family!
I Agree? Haven't "really" tracked my car yet, you need a good stretch to get "value" out of the 8 thru 10.
For me, it was the beginning of a whole new lifestyle. I started really caring about my appearance, got into showtunes, and became a vegetarian.
I'm not surprised more people elected to buy the A10 than the M6.According the Cadillac team the take rate on the Blackwing manuals trans was close to 40%, which was a surprise to the team as well.
I'm not surprised more people elected to buy the A10 than the M6.
Reckon the same roads in Tour and it gets there? To 10th I mean. Guessing track + giving it the beans = dynamic sport mode or whatever it's called, that gets you a more aggressive shift pattern?I ran my 4BW a few times in track mode on some of our very smooth roads with all the nannies on. It seemed a little quicker and what surprised me was it never got higher than 7th gear even at around 60-65 mph. Haven't tried it with the 5 yet.
When on track the A10 typically goes into performance shift mode so it will hold gears and keep the revs up based on the g-forces from acceleration, cornering and braking. On the highway when cruising it will shift into the higher gears and keep the revs very low.Reckon the same roads in Tour and it gets there? To 10th I mean. Guessing track + giving it the beans = dynamic sport mode or whatever it's called, that gets you a more aggressive shift pattern?
Quite. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy when gatekeepers and gif-meme spammers show up.
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