Oil Changes

[NewCaddy]

Chunks doesn't seem normal...

I just changed the oil at 1100 miles. Oil honestly looked pretty good and no chunks.

Could’ve went to 3,500 and still no chunks?

 

[raptor5244]

Both the 4BW and 5BW are pretty simple oil changes. No dry sump, just drain and fill.

5BW LT4 uses a PF64 filter and 10qts of 0W-40. Either the ESP Dexos2 or the new rebranded Supercar oil. 18 ft. lbs on the drain plug.

The 4BW LF4 gets away with some less expensive 5w-30 Dexos1, which comes in 5qt jugs for less than $25 at Walmart. It uses a PF63 filter and calls for 7qts.

If you want the filter cap wrench it is a 15 flute. You don't really need this but some folks like to use the proper tool.

Here is the link to the GM Techlink reference for all the motors and filters/capacities.

https://gm-techlink.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/TechLink-engine-oil-capacities-A-2022.pdf

 

[raptor5244]

I do find it strange that the Techlink doc states 9qts for the LT4 on the 5BW and Dexos1, while the LT1/LT4 on the Camaro calls for more expensive 10qts and Dexos2. This may be why some dealers are putting in the standard 0w-40 Dexos1 during the dealer oil changes. Maybe a different oil pan for one less quart? Not sure...

 

[FLYARMY]

You answered my question. I was wondering if there was a plastic panel underneath like on my Dodge Challenger. I will take a look and see if my 5BW warrants getting a "Fumoto Check Valve". I have it to replace the oil drain bolt on my Dodge since it doesn't hang down too low to get hit if I bottom out. It makes life very easy to change your oil and the service techs appreciate it also. No stripped or cross threaded bolts, no oil spills.

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[Daijoubu]

I do find it strange that the Techlink doc states 9qts for the LT4 on the 5BW and Dexos1, while the LT1/LT4 on the Camaro calls for more expensive 10qts and Dexos2. This may be why some dealers are putting in the standard 0w-40 Dexos1 during the dealer oil changes. Maybe a different oil pan for one less quart? Not sure...

Yeah, this is the first I've seen a Dexos1 for the LT4. It has to be a typo. There is no Dexos1 0W40 anyway...https://www.gmdexos.com/brands/dexos1/index.html

It's very simple, there is only one oil for the CT5VBW...Mobil 1 ESP (Dexos2) ESP 0W40...that's it. It'll be called Mobil 1 Supercar Dexos R soon, which will make it even more confusing (and expensive).

 

[raptor5244]

Yeah, this is the first I've seen a Dexos1 for the LT4. It has to be a typo. There is no Dexos1 0W40 anyway...https://www.gmdexos.com/brands/dexos1/index.html

It's very simple, there is only one oil for the CT5VBW...Mobil 1 ESP (Dexos2) ESP 0W40...that's it. It'll be called Mobil 1 Supercar Dexos R soon, which will make it even more confusing (and expensive).

I agree. Not a good document to make a typo.

 

[67john98]

Yeah, this is the first I've seen a Dexos1 for the LT4. It has to be a typo. There is no Dexos1 0W40 anyway...https://www.gmdexos.com/brands/dexos1/index.html

It's very simple, there is only one oil for the CT5VBW...Mobil 1 ESP (Dexos2) ESP 0W40...that's it. It'll be called Mobil 1 Supercar Dexos R soon, which will make it even more confusing (and expensive).

Don't think it's a typo. You need to get this stuff. A little hard to find, but part stores can get it. A little pricey at $13/qt.

 

[jumpmanjay]

Got the first one done at 1500 mi

 

[67john98]

Info from Mobil website:

Is Mobil 1 Supercar motor oil being used in any other GM engines?
Only the highest performance GM engines are being factory filled with Mobil 1 Supercar motor oil. This includes the most powerful Corvette and Camaro models that feature the LT1, LT2, or LT4 engines, and any future engines that require a dexos®-approved motor oil.

Is Mobil 1 Supercar 0W-40 motor the same as Mobil 1 0W-40 oil?
Mobil 1 Supercar 0W-40 motor oil is the result of almost 24 months of grueling tests and precise engineering. While the viscosity is identical, the formulation of Mobil 1 Supercar 0W-40 motor oil is specifically designed to guarantee it meets the strict dexos®-spec required for all seventh-generation and later Corvette models and it is not interchangeable with Mobil 1 0W-40.

 

[67john98]

Was not reading manual correctly. Caddy and Chevy call for Dexos 2 for LT4.

 

[67john98]

Then there is this:

Mobil 1 Rebrands ESP Formula 0W-40 as Mobil 1 Supercar - Corvette: Sales, News & Lifestyle

Mobil 1 motor oil is making a branding change on its ESP 0W-40 to Mobil 1 Supercar to better reflect its new DexosR rating while continuing to meet all dexos-specifications required for all C7 and C8 Corvettes.

www.corvetteblogger.com

 

[raptor5244]

Although, there is definitely a difference in recommendations between Chevy and Caddy. Chey is looking for Dexos2 0W-40 on these engines and Caddy wants Dexos1. Supposed to be the same engine...

Wonder if there is any actual difference between Dexos 1 & 2?

There are tons of articles on it. At a high level, Dexos2 supports both diesel and gas engines, formulated to meet European emissions and fuel economy.

Dexos 1 vs Dexos 2 | Which is Better For Your Engine?

Back in 2009, General Motors started their own engine oil specification known as Dexos Oil, to provide their customers with high-quality engine oil. GM on receiving a tremendous response on dexos from all around the world decided to further simplify the supply chain process. As a result, they...

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if you really want to geek out over the oil then head over to Bob the Oil Guy forum where you can get into long debates over oil.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/dexos1-vs-dexos2-gen1-or-gen2.285322/

 

[raptor5244]

Then there is this:

Mobil 1 Rebrands ESP Formula 0W-40 as Mobil 1 Supercar - Corvette: Sales, News & Lifestyle

Mobil 1 motor oil is making a branding change on its ESP 0W-40 to Mobil 1 Supercar to better reflect its new DexosR rating while continuing to meet all dexos-specifications required for all C7 and C8 Corvettes.

www.corvetteblogger.com

Found it at Walmart for $9.87 per qt.

Robot or human?

 

[67john98]

Starting to see now. That logo on the Supercar oil is not Dexos 1, it's DexosR. Slowly getting there...

 

[67john98]

And finally, there is this (just need to keep reading). Never hurts to read it all:

Can't get the pic to show in the body of the message. If you open the file it shows the oil recommendations from the owner's manual. Dexos 2 for the LT4..

No typo..

View attachment Oil.jpg

 

[67john98]

Excuse my slowness. Definitely a typo on the Techlink thing, but the owners manuals seems correct...

 

[565565]

Found it at Walmart for $9.87 per qt.

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Robot or human?

That's where I got mine, shipped for free in 1 day.

 

[rubberduck]

Got some ESP locally at Autozone for $9.99 a quart. I don’t think they have completed the supercar branding change. Where I usually buy oil, JEGS and Summit Racing, they don’t even have it, which I find odd.

 

[raptor5244]

Got some ESP locally at Autozone for $9.99 a quart. I don’t think they have completed the supercar branding change. Where I usually buy oil, JEGS and Summit Racing, they don’t even have it, which I find odd.

It is still transitioning over but you can find it at Walmart online for less than $10 per qt.

Speedway sells it as well but more expensive than Walmart.

Mobil 1 Supercar Full Synthetic Motor Oil, 0W-40, Dexos R, Case/6

Mobil 1™ Supercar 0W-40 is an advanced full synthetic motor oil specifically designed for high performance cars to provide exceptional cleaning power and wear protection, and deliver outstanding overall performance. Mobil 1™ Supercar 0W-40 is proven in high performance North American sports cars...

www.speedwaymotors.com

 

[Daijoubu]

It is still transitioning over but you can find it at Walmart online for less than $10 per qt.

Speedway sells it as well but more expensive than Walmart.

Mobil 1 Supercar Full Synthetic Motor Oil, 0W-40, Dexos R, Case/6

Mobil 1™ Supercar 0W-40 is an advanced full synthetic motor oil specifically designed for high performance cars to provide exceptional cleaning power and wear protection, and deliver outstanding overall performance. Mobil 1™ Supercar 0W-40 is proven in high performance North American sports cars...

www.speedwaymotors.com

I can't remember the last time I checked out of Autozone online without a 20% off discount code. They are always available, and free shipping. $7.99 is about the best I've found.