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Does that equal to mean they weigh the same? Not that weight saving is a big concern for me but will be for others.
Being that the muffler looks to be damn near half the size of stock, I thought the weight might be significant.
@Christian/AWE can you elaborate more as to the closed valve position? How much louder is it at startup with valves closed (will the neighbors notice it is different than stock), and i know at cruise speeds it is “close to stock” but is it louder than stock in the cabin? Thanks!!!
Do you have any soundclips that you can share? I have been debating aftermarket CB with factory headers vs Kooks headers and factory exhaust. Looking for the best sound gains. Did you get a CEL with the green cats? Worth the upgrade or would you have done something different looking back?This is what I have done so far as well. Stock exhaust Kooks headers and green cats. Also did Kong SC porting. Sound is louder, but not greatly, and more open without serious change to the overall sound profile it already had I feel.
Definitely would not have changed what I did and I feel it was worth it, very subjective though. I have done Kooks and their cats on 3 of my cars so far. (BW, Camaro SS, and Chevy 1500 Silverado) All have made me very happy. I will try to get a sound clip uploaded for you. But it has been my experience that cell phone sounds are pretty much shit when trying to evaluate exhaust note.Do you have any soundclips that you can share? I have been debating aftermarket CB with factory headers vs Kooks headers and factory exhaust. Looking for the best sound gains. Did you get a CEL with the green cats? Worth the upgrade or would you have done something different looking back?
Definitely would not have changed what I did and I feel it was worth it, very subjective though. [...] I will try to get a sound clip uploaded for you. But it has been my experience that cell phone sounds are pretty much shit when trying to evaluate exhaust note. [...]
Sounds great! Thanks for posting. Now the quesiton is will the dealership allow me to make the mod without voiding my warranty. Did your dealer say anything about it?Ok for what it is worth. 2 of these clips are inside the cabin what you hear when driving. (I do have my ANC mikes clipped (aftermarket sub) and my trunk is completely done in sound deadener.) The rustle noise is just me tossing phone in cup holder since I was driving.
The last is the second start of the day with some rev to hear it up and down. At the beginning was some dude across the street who figured that same time he needed to use his blower.
Hopefully they help a little.
Tell me more about this bespoke x-pipe?
With regards to weight. Is it heavier than stock.
Could you not run the big tips and redirect exit to the factory tips?
Thoughts?
How does this pair with Kooks headers?
Sure, maybe, this is a cool alternative to Corsa but not if it costs an extra grand for a custom install connection pipe. I’m a big fan of AWE, this is just candid feedback because I love to see more and more for our Blackwings.I'd assume if someone is going down the mod rabbit hole beyond a bolt on would also have the complete capability to weld a pipe. I will say this one sounds the best of the options IMO. This is however using the sound comparo's from the forum. Real life always different.
Or: maybe Kooks missed the mark?I love the sound of the AWE system in the initial launch but guys, this is a miss. Spending (~roughly 3K on a catback) + kooks headers + install and needing custom fabrication on top of that is a miss. Yes, some go for the catback for the sound but half (maybe more?) of the buyers mod these cars. Just candid feedback, no internet hate of any sort.