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2023 Ct4 V Balckwing
Think I might get a Z06, been looking and great deals out there right now with prices lower than MSRP. Good selection too before the 26 refresh. Thinking carbon fiber wing package and front end lift, looked into the Z07 package but don't want the Cup2s on the street. A few I've found have the carbon brakes only and one has carbon brakes and carbon wheels. Anyhow did you like it? got tired of it? reliability seems to be good, a few had engines replaced but not many. Hardcore cars like that can get on your nerves after a while. Only space for 1 car for me. Seems to be a good list of 1 and two year old used ones, low miles as I think people got a bit more roughness than they bargained for or the wife hated it. GM is not selling them certified though. Just the remainder of the warranty.
 
I don't have a Black Wing but I do have a CTS-V Wagon. I also have room for 3 powerful cars, so I bought a 2025 Eray. Bullet quick and comfortable.
 
I’m tall with tall torso, so it’s hard for me to fit in some cars. I went to dealer and sat in the HTC and after 15 minutes of seat fiddling was able to make it work. That’s cross plane crank engine sounds so good.
 
I sold my 2023 5V Blackwing and my C7Z for a '23 Z06 with Z07.

I have commented on it numerous times. The Z06 is a weapon, the engine is ridiculous.

My TLDR is that the car is so potent and basically lives at the bleeding edge that I couldn't enjoy it on the public road without risking my license.

If you have better control than me (I thought I did, I've owned multiple high performance vehicles but never one with a high strung motor going to almost 9k and 700hp) you will love it. I loved mine but within 6 months knew I would end up on the evening news so I sold it and went back to a C7Z manual.

The price for me in Canada has gone up a lot and if I could buy one again I would just order a base 1LZ with no options. The engine is the star of the show, the options don't matter. You don't need a wing or heated seats or carbon fiber, you just giggle like a school girl when you start it and rev it out.

Seriously don't waste your money on all the extra bullshit, the only thing that makes this car special is the engine.
 
I would love to get Z06...... once they add the third paddle.
 
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I don't have a C8 Z06 but I do have a '21 C8 Stingray HTC and 5BW.

For me personally, the biggest disappointment I have with my C8 is the damn DCT. I despise it. The shift points suck (way too short in first and second gear). There are times when it shifts harder than it should. The maintenance requirements are ridiculous and expensive.

The transmission in my C8 required a main valve body replacement at 13,000 miles because it decided it didn't like shifting to the even gears. This is with ALL maintenance requirements performed as specified.

At one time I considered trading in my Stingray for an ERay. As of now, I'm staying far away from anything that says Tremec and Dual Clutch Transmission. I know this may be surprising considering the Tremec 6060 in my BW is the best manual transmission I've ever driven.
 
i havent owned blackwing. But ive spent 2 days in a Z06. I must say its one of the best experiences ive had driving that car. It had an aftermarket exhaust as well. Man it screamed and i had an absolute blast driving it.
That being said i sold my GT500 and am going to be getting into a 5BW. The car suits my lifestyle better even though the Z06 is more exhilarating.
 
I’ve only got one parking space, so if I pull the trigger it’ll have to be my only one. But most of the time I drive for fun unless it’s to the dentist or doctor. I have my eyes on a used one that has the CF wheels and carbon brakes, but it seems that most places will not mount tires on CF wheels due to the liability of damages.
 
I’ve only got one parking space, so if I pull the trigger it’ll have to be my only one. But most of the time I drive for fun unless it’s to the dentist or doctor. I have my eyes on a used one that has the CF wheels and carbon brakes, but it seems that most places will not mount tires on CF wheels due to the liability of damages.
a reliable dealer will know how to handle them. they pretty much have to. That being said if you have really nice forged or any other kind of wheel, it may not be the best idea to take them just anywhere.

you may want to check the forums and may be able to offload the carbon wheels for a good amount of coin. ive GT500 wheels sell for big money . there are people out there who may want a couple of sets.
I had CF wheels on the mustang. it was definitely a concern but other then the occasional tire change i wouldnt worry about them. They make the car feel lighter on its feet.
 
I’ve only got one parking space, so if I pull the trigger it’ll have to be my only one. But most of the time I drive for fun unless it’s to the dentist or doctor. I have my eyes on a used one that has the CF wheels and carbon brakes, but it seems that most places will not mount tires on CF wheels due to the liability of damages.

So only one spot for you ? So between you and wife, there's another (presumably more practical) vehicle ?

If so, I'd definitely go for the Z06. You're obviously past the missing pedal, but other than that, its a phenomenal vehicle. Earlier posts said ignore everything but the engine, and I can't agree more. That soundtrack is what your paying for - it is the best. Just get a decent color, and not a primer gray.

Even if its your only family vehicle, it is surprisingly supple. In comfy suspension settings I found it very pleasant on the street. Probably not much space for luggage or groceries though...........so you'll have to make 2 trips. :)
 
I’ve done both, basically traded a C8 Z06 (for a G87 MT M2 first, huge mistake) then for a 25 MT BW. I ended up trading that back for a 25 Hysteria Purple 2LZ Z06 and am very very glad to have it back. Plus, I was pissed at myself for not researching the 25 MT BW changes……..and GM/Cadillac for deleting the blind spot monitoring, volume knob and potentially the standard camera security system the 24s and before have. I haven’t caught up here in a while so I don’t know if anyone has figured that out yet.

I absolutely loved the 5BW, especially the MT as it is one of the best around either past or present IMO. It was just too big and floaty for me (plus the deletions from above). Thats where it comes down to a personal preference. Some think the C8 Z06s are too harsh, but it’s the goldilocks zone for me. Not too harsh for DD cruising and obviously awesome when you dial it up for the backroads or the track. I prefer a more buttoned down ride though. If I go back to a 5BW I’ll get the Precision Package.

I disagree with others that it is only the motor that is the star of the show and to not get anything else, but that’s personal opinion. The car is so well balanced, the suspension is awesome that is all works extremely well together as a package. I also love the DCT and how it can be a bit rough at times, it adds some good drama that most cars are missing nowadays. The maintenance on the DCT isn’t that bad either, especially if you can do it yourself. I changed the oil, filter and DCT filter for $250 materials and 1-2 hours in my garage taking my time. Then you get a free service for both to be used in the first year. You have to have the filter changed at 7500 miles to maintain the DCT warranty. I did it earlier on my dime because they have had a lot of issues with them and I’ve heard good things about early and more often filter changes on the car. A DCT filter and flush is required at 22,500 miles if I remember correctly and yes that will be expensive at about $1000.

I had a 24 3LZ with the full aero, no front end lift and two tone red/black interior that annoyingly reflected off of the windshield badly in the sun. I also hated the Alcantara/CF steering wheel and that I couldn’t get just an OEM leather replacement for it. I did scrape a lot going into parking lots driveways etc.

So this go around I got the 2LZ package, which I recommend at minimum to anyone to get. It gets you quite a bit of things for not a lot more. The major ones that were important to me were these, nicer heated/cooled seats with power lumbar, better stereo, front and rear HD cameras and rear cross traffic alerts, which are a must for this car IMO. PDR is standard where it is an option on the 1LZs. I also got it with solid black interior, standard aero and front end lift option. No more scraping, easier to wash at home and no annoying reflections on the windshield anymore.

The CF stuff is also personal. I stay away from it because I don’t want the expense of replacing it if something goes wrong on my dime. People on the C8 Z06 forums are still having a hard time getting people to do tires for them, they are even been turned away by Chevy dealers. That’s the other thing, Chevy service absolutely sucks, they are having a hard time even doing oil changes correctly because it is a dry sump system and has two drain plugs. They are not draining the sump, just the crankcase and filling it up with 8-10 more quarts of the wrong oil because they all think they are Stingrays. Z06s take 8 quarts of 5W-50. I do all of my own service at home if I can.

Hope that helps, happy hunting. Sorry, don’t have too many pics of yet. A quick one at the dealer and then one I took last weekend when I started doing the ceramic coating process my self.
 

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Yes I’ve been reading about all those things. Found a used one with CF wheels but having to hunt down a place that’ll change tires on them seems a problem. I agree that I don’t need the CF body aero package. Or the ceramic brakes. The Z07 package might be a bit much too. Do need the front end lift though so I won’t scrape on the driveway. Like any hard edge sports car, the initial one or two waves of buyers got them now, and paid markup. Lots of Z06s are sitting on the lots now with discounts, and some are a year old and being traded back in, I assume cause it was too hard edge for some to live with. For me I’m used to that in my past motorcycles but really can’t ride anymore. So the Z06 might fill that need for me. My insurance will go up though from the rate of the BW.
 
I’ve done both, basically traded a C8 Z06 (for a G87 MT M2 first, huge mistake) then for a 25 MT BW. I ended up trading that back for a 25 Hysteria Purple 2LZ Z06 and am very very glad to have it back. Plus, I was pissed at myself for not researching the 25 MT BW changes……..and GM/Cadillac for deleting the blind spot monitoring, volume knob and potentially the standard camera security system the 24s and before have. I haven’t caught up here in a while so I don’t know if anyone has figured that out yet.

I absolutely loved the 5BW, especially the MT as it is one of the best around either past or present IMO. It was just too big and floaty for me (plus the deletions from above). Thats where it comes down to a personal preference. Some think the C8 Z06s are too harsh, but it’s the goldilocks zone for me. Not too harsh for DD cruising and obviously awesome when you dial it up for the backroads or the track. I prefer a more buttoned down ride though. If I go back to a 5BW I’ll get the Precision Package.

I disagree with others that it is only the motor that is the star of the show and to not get anything else, but that’s personal opinion. The car is so well balanced, the suspension is awesome that is all works extremely well together as a package. I also love the DCT and how it can be a bit rough at times, it adds some good drama that most cars are missing nowadays. The maintenance on the DCT isn’t that bad either, especially if you can do it yourself. I changed the oil, filter and DCT filter for $250 materials and 1-2 hours in my garage taking my time. Then you get a free service for both to be used in the first year. You have to have the filter changed at 7500 miles to maintain the DCT warranty. I did it earlier on my dime because they have had a lot of issues with them and I’ve heard good things about early and more often filter changes on the car. A DCT filter and flush is required at 22,500 miles if I remember correctly and yes that will be expensive at about $1000.

I had a 24 3LZ with the full aero, no front end lift and two tone red/black interior that annoyingly reflected off of the windshield badly in the sun. I also hated the Alcantara/CF steering wheel and that I couldn’t get just an OEM leather replacement for it. I did scrape a lot going into parking lots driveways etc.

So this go around I got the 2LZ package, which I recommend at minimum to anyone to get. It gets you quite a bit of things for not a lot more. The major ones that were important to me were these, nicer heated/cooled seats with power lumbar, better stereo, front and rear HD cameras and rear cross traffic alerts, which are a must for this car IMO. PDR is standard where it is an option on the 1LZs. I also got it with solid black interior, standard aero and front end lift option. No more scraping, easier to wash at home and no annoying reflections on the windshield anymore.

The CF stuff is also personal. I stay away from it because I don’t want the expense of replacing it if something goes wrong on my dime. People on the C8 Z06 forums are still having a hard time getting people to do tires for them, they are even been turned away by Chevy dealers. That’s the other thing, Chevy service absolutely sucks, they are having a hard time even doing oil changes correctly because it is a dry sump system and has two drain plugs. They are not draining the sump, just the crankcase and filling it up with 8-10 more quarts of the wrong oil because they all think they are Stingrays. Z06s take 8 quarts of 5W-50. I do all of my own service at home if I can.

Hope that helps, happy hunting. Sorry, don’t have too many pics of yet. A quick one at the dealer and then one I took last weekend when I started doing the ceramic coating process my self.
Great write up. It does remind me that the steering is very sharp but the feel isn’t quite as great as I would have liked. The interior is great (I had 3LZ). The CCB brakes were so good as well, decent feel but not as good as the Shelby..
 

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