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[ToniCipriani]

If we're honest, aside from the colors and special editions, the 4BW has been the same car since it debuted. Which is fine with me, they don't really need to change anything.

We have observation bias considering we paid actual money for one, lol. I like the car, but let's not pretend it's perfect.

There's a lot of improvement areas IMO, at the very least give me the darn power folding mirrors that's actually shown in owner's manual.

And truth be told, it is behind its competition, and sales numbers reflect that, it's selling worse than even the Optiq. Heck, the CT4 couldn't even survive in China, where they pretty much buy anything. They discontinued in for 2024.

 

[fordperfaddict]

We have observation bias considering we paid actual money for one, lol. I like the car, but let's not pretend it's perfect.

There's a lot of improvement areas IMO, at the very least give me the darn power folding mirrors that's actually shown in owner's manual.

And truth be told, it is behind its competition, and sales numbers reflect that, it's selling worse than even the Optiq. Heck, the CT4 couldn't even survive in China, where they pretty much buy anything. They discontinued in for 2024.

I feel a minor front fascia update and bump the power could revive it a little bit. Make it a true m3 competitor

 

[ToniCipriani]

I feel a minor front fascia update and bump the power could revive it a little bit. Make it a true m3 competitor

It'll help, but there's more that needs to be done IMO. There's a reason why they avoided the competition and sent the CT5 to compete with the M3 marketing-wise instead of the CT4. They were likely given a shoestring budget as all the development money went to the EVs, and had to make do with just a refreshed ATS and CTS, because that's what the CT4 and 5 really are.

The most common complaint about the CT4 was the rear seat space, which they can easily solve by using the ATS-L as a base to refresh to the CT4 with the extra wheelbase, but that probably cannibalized CT5 sales since that would bring it within an inch of wheelbase, also part of the reason they didn't do a CT4-L in China this time, an eventually cancelling it.

And I felt they should've made the CT4 a liftback just like the Escala concept to differentiate it with the CT5. CT4 would've then competed perfectly with the current Audi A5/S5, which also is a liftback. Again, likely limited by development costs.