Next Gen ICE CT5 Officially Confirmed!!!!

[Rob]

Nope. I don't own the V-Club. I haven't read the article yet. I'm just getting home from a long day in work

 

[DCV]

It's clear you and the second person haven't driven a Z06. I have one and have had for over a year. Drive one in anger before saying what you think you can do, based on your experience with Ford's (pathetic attempt at a) flat plane engine. The Z06's engine makes its peak power way, way up high, like 8400RPMs. And its redline is a mere 200RPMs higher. You are not fast enough to properly shift a manual transmission car within 200RPMs in a free-spinning FPC engine. It isn't going to happen. You're going to hit the rev limiter every single time.

The Z06's engine is a gutless block of pretty aluminum in the lower RPMs where we do most of our driving on the road. There's so little low end torque in the engine. The low end is part of the 5BW's wonderful character. That immediate kick-you-in-the-chest grunt that's there everywhere in its admittedly smaller rev range. There's no need to think outside the box with this. I've had a 5BW, I have a C8 Z06, and I'm selling that to go back to.. a 5BW. The Caddy has a certain type of character that would be destroyed with a high-revving, gutless-down-low V8 engine.

Actually I have gotten a few test drives. One was used and the salesman told me to hit it, and I did! I’m quite used to high revving engines as I rode various sportbikes for 36 years that went up to 14k or so rpm. So I’m used to it. I also was a licensed racer in WERA and CCS.

 

[Rob]

So, here's my unprofessional opinion...given my job of nearly 10 years, I've driven 1,000s of Corvettes...let me spell that out...thousands. That includes C7 Z06s with manual transmissions and C8 Z06s, and more recently, C8 ZR1s. While I have admittedly not driven a CT5-V Blackwing, the powerplant is essentially the same as the C7 Z06.

You're comparing apples to oranges. The C8 Z06 is a completely different animal compared to a C7 Z06 and I would assume, a CT5-V Blackwing.

It really comes to: what are you looking for in the driving experience? Both are exhilarating. The Cadillac, more luxurious, more creature comforts. The C8 Z06, more like Ferrari...purpose built and driven for a particular driving experience.

Ever since I was a little kid, I always lusted after Ferrari and Lamborghini. For me personally, the C8 Z06 comes pretty damn close to what I would expect to hear, feel and experience in a Ferrari.

I just drove 4 C8 Z06s and one C8 ZR1 this morning. I love the new ZR1, but the Z06, tickles my joystick in all the right ways. I'm not downplaying the CT5-V Blackwing, by any stretch. But until I can drive one, I'm going to have to go on my previous C7 Z06 driving experience. Still an amazing car with a manual transmission, but the C7 Z06 doesn't instill the same level of confidence near the limit as a C8 Z06.

But hey, what do I know? I've owned a 1990 ZR-1 for 30 years now with a pitiful 375 naturally aspirated hp....but I'll be damned if the ole girl still didn't put a shit-eating grin on my face last weekend as I was rowing through the gears...

It's all about the driving experience and what tickles your joystick...

 

[565565]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a69045575/cadillac-ct4-ct5-discontinued-2026-next-gen-ct5/

 

[DCV]

For a while the 2025 Z06s were heavily discounted this summer and you could have got one for close to 15k or more under MSRP for one loaded up with the Z07 package and other goodies. Most of them are gone now and the 2026 ones are coming in. Not much discount on them but with the economy going into the shitter, imma gonna guess in two months or so the 2026s will be discounted too. Popping 140 to 150k or more on a toy really, not something people do in that case. I’ve been lightly looking at the 2026s and a used 992 C4S.

 

[LF4472]

The C8 Z06 is a completely different animal compared to a C7 Z06 and I would assume, a CT5-V Blackwing.

As a C7 Z06 owner, my perception has been it's primary design intention was track duty, whereas most of the owners (me included) don't track them. With the C8, my perception is the design intention was the majority of those buyers would be better served by the eRay, leaving the C8 Z06 to become even more track focused.

 

[quikag]

They will have a V8 for the next gen trucks/SUVs and Corvette (maybe Camaro reincarnation?). So, a derivative of a higher performance V8 could easily find it's way into the next-gen CT5. Also, Cadillac is going F1. You think they won't have a high performance model or three?

 

[Le Monstre]

For street, C8 Z06 is a fantastic driving enthusiast car, but little heavy if it wants to punch at its weight on track.
Regarding next gen CT5, there are a few options as we know now:

- LT4 - Tried and true with no complaints
- LT5 - Will never happen as it is already too much for C7 ZR1 chassis (difficulty to drive fast)
- LT6 - As mentioned before, not ideal for a 4 door sedan and opposite of Cadillac Racing aura
- LT7 - Lol please
- Gen 6 LT - Perhaps, but not enough is known yet.

In my opinion, it will be revised LT4 or Gen6 LT. That is, if the blackwing comes back next generation.

 

[jbawden]

For a while the 2025 Z06s were heavily discounted this summer and you could have got one for close to 15k or more under MSRP for one loaded up with the Z07 package and other goodies. Most of them are gone now and the 2026 ones are coming in. Not much discount on them but with the economy going into the shitter, imma gonna guess in two months or so the 2026s will be discounted too. Popping 140 to 150k or more on a toy really, not something people do in that case. I’ve been lightly looking at the 2026s and a used 992 C4S.

Economy is going in the shitter?? I think there are signs of softening which is seasonally predictable, but people who can truly afford a Z06 (cash or or minimal short term financing) aren't affected. I think there is a segment that are finally having to reconcile reckless pandemic era spending and then a another segment that are keeping some powder dry because they are uncertain about the future, but we're no where near shitter status.

 

[1Evil55]

Is it too soon to start requesting they build a V wagon?

 

[quikag]

Is it too soon to start requesting they build a V wagon?

Never too soon! Take my money!

 

[brewski]

If Cadillac made a 5BW wagon in a manual I would do whatever I need to afford one. Even if it doesn't make financial sense.

 

[ZoomieZoom55]

If Cadillac made a 5BW wagon in a manual I would do whatever I need to afford one. Even if it doesn't make financial sense.

would do whatever you need to afford one….

 

[quikag]

would do whatever you need to afford one….

Guess you don't want one bad enough!

Me knowing my new '28 CT5 Wagon twin turbo V8 Blackwing is almost landing at the dealer and I'm short money:

 

[BKC1]

Is it too soon to start requesting they build a V wagon?

 

[Le Monstre]

I see lowered 2022 Escalade lol

 

[brewski]

would do whatever you need to afford one….

I would go as far as having phallic enhancing pills for my avatar if I had to.

 

[ZoomieZoom55]

I would go as far as having phallic enhancing pills for my avatar if I had to.

I resolve Oedipal conflicts and provide phallic enhancement for a living. Anyone can dm me if interested. -Dr Cocksman

 

[BlackDiamondCT5VBW]

Did my wife put you up to this?

 

[ZoomieZoom55]

Did my wife put you up to this?