The Sandman
Seasoned Member
Greetings fellow Cadillac V and Blackwing enthusiasts 
I like to wait until a few weeks have passed and I have some posts under my belt before posting an intro thread... just to make sure Iām worthy of the group and vice versa.
Iām a long time GM specialty and performance guy, especially vehicles that are limited production, off the beaten path, and/or unappreciated by most people. Iāve had a GMC Syclone and Typhoon and a Cadillac XLR among other things. I got away from General Motors after the bankruptcy and restructuring, but couldnāt resist looking at a new Blackwing.
Iām also an experienced forumer - back in the day I was one of the Administrators on Sal Collazianoās Cadillac Forums. After that I started the Admin Zone⦠a forum for forum owners and administrators, which I sold after owning it for over 15 years. Canāt beat a good forum for sharing detailed information!
I decided on a whim one day a couple of months ago to look into purchasing a BW. Wife walked in on me ogling a Blaze Orange CT4-V Blackwing online and she loved the look⦠told me to go get one. Who am I to argue? But not so easy to find?
I looked up the inventory at my local Caddy dealer and they had one in that color incoming in a ācouple of weeksā. There was also mention of a significant Dealer markup.
I called them to discuss but they would only say it was negotiable so come in and see us.
I told the missus I didnāt think it was gonna happen.
The next day I got out of work early. Caddy dealer is only 10 minutes away so what the heck⦠let me see what kind of deal I might expect. Car is at least 2 weeks out but at least I can maybe see the Blaze Orange on another vehicle.
I pulled onto the lot and parked. Was walking towards the showroom when I saw a flash of Orange⦠could it be Blaze Orange? Yes it was! And it was a CT4-V BW that did not appear in the online inventory. Walked into the showroom and asked a salesman about the incoming car. He told me āYeah, itās coming but thereās one on the lot that just showed up today⦠never been driven, 9 miles on odometer⦠hereās the keys.
The incoming one was better equipped but the one on the lot was cheaper. I decided I could live without the upgraded seats and data logger. Negotiated with the salesman⦠got the dealer markup down below $5,000 plus they threw in extended warranty, service plus for 6 years, and the dealer installed black side view mirrors. Overall I didnāt feel too badly violated in the deal.
Drove the car home that afternoon without notifying the wife. Well⦠wasnāt she surprised

I like to wait until a few weeks have passed and I have some posts under my belt before posting an intro thread... just to make sure Iām worthy of the group and vice versa.
Iām a long time GM specialty and performance guy, especially vehicles that are limited production, off the beaten path, and/or unappreciated by most people. Iāve had a GMC Syclone and Typhoon and a Cadillac XLR among other things. I got away from General Motors after the bankruptcy and restructuring, but couldnāt resist looking at a new Blackwing.
Iām also an experienced forumer - back in the day I was one of the Administrators on Sal Collazianoās Cadillac Forums. After that I started the Admin Zone⦠a forum for forum owners and administrators, which I sold after owning it for over 15 years. Canāt beat a good forum for sharing detailed information!
I decided on a whim one day a couple of months ago to look into purchasing a BW. Wife walked in on me ogling a Blaze Orange CT4-V Blackwing online and she loved the look⦠told me to go get one. Who am I to argue? But not so easy to find?
I looked up the inventory at my local Caddy dealer and they had one in that color incoming in a ācouple of weeksā. There was also mention of a significant Dealer markup.

I told the missus I didnāt think it was gonna happen.
The next day I got out of work early. Caddy dealer is only 10 minutes away so what the heck⦠let me see what kind of deal I might expect. Car is at least 2 weeks out but at least I can maybe see the Blaze Orange on another vehicle.
I pulled onto the lot and parked. Was walking towards the showroom when I saw a flash of Orange⦠could it be Blaze Orange? Yes it was! And it was a CT4-V BW that did not appear in the online inventory. Walked into the showroom and asked a salesman about the incoming car. He told me āYeah, itās coming but thereās one on the lot that just showed up today⦠never been driven, 9 miles on odometer⦠hereās the keys.
The incoming one was better equipped but the one on the lot was cheaper. I decided I could live without the upgraded seats and data logger. Negotiated with the salesman⦠got the dealer markup down below $5,000 plus they threw in extended warranty, service plus for 6 years, and the dealer installed black side view mirrors. Overall I didnāt feel too badly violated in the deal.
Drove the car home that afternoon without notifying the wife. Well⦠wasnāt she surprised

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