Ceramics

[themodern6spdsedan]

I've tried the ferodo DS 2500 and they're really good because I used them as my track brake pads back in the day on my Scion FRS which is now known as the Toyota gr86 or Subaru BRZ.

Thanks for sharing. Nice to hear that you also have great experience with the Ferodo DS2500 as a track pad. If it has less brake dust than the OEM ones, then I might just get the Ferodo DS2500. As I mentioned earlier, now I’m stuck between getting the Carbotech 1521s or the Ferodo DS2500.

 

[themodern6spdsedan]

Was wondering what everyone’s opinion is on the GiroDisc 2 rotors? Anyone have them or know about them? Is it significantly better or worse than the stock rotors on the 4BW?

 

[Bald Guy]

Was wondering what everyone’s opinion is on the GiroDisc 2 rotors? Anyone have them or know about them? Is it significantly better or worse than the stock rotors on the 4BW?

On the Corvette forum which I used to be a part of, everyone was saying good things about gyro disc brand.

 

[Bald Guy]

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[nordique14]

I am a huge Ferodo fan. Not just of the DS2500 but also the DS1.11 and the DSUNO. Those are the 2 other compounds I have tried on the GT350. If you want to go a bit more aggressive on the compound, the DS1.11 are great. Better wear on the track and way less brake dust. No free lunches though. They are a bit harder on the rotors and require just a bit more temp to work well on the street. And they cost more. If you are doing serious track time, I would run the DS1.11 over the DS2500.

I have not run the new DS3.12 but they sound great as well.

Ferodo Racing DS3.12 Brake Pads: A New Benchmark for Control | Essex Parts Services, Inc.

Interpreting a dyno plot and real world results.

www.essexparts.com

 

[themodern6spdsedan]

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Wow! That’s a very nice setup you got there. Given the setup are both on all front and back wheels, that’s half the cost of a BRZ. How do you like the CUP 2 Rs?

 

[themodern6spdsedan]

I am a huge Ferodo fan. Not just of the DS2500 but also the DS1.11 and the DSUNO. Those are the 2 other compounds I have tried on the GT350. If you want to go a bit more aggressive on the compound, the DS1.11 are great. Better wear on the track and way less brake dust. No free lunches though. They are a bit harder on the rotors and require just a bit more temp to work well on the street. And they cost more. If you are doing serious track time, I would run the DS1.11 over the DS2500.

I have not run the new DS3.12 but they sound great as well.

Ferodo Racing DS3.12 Brake Pads: A New Benchmark for Control | Essex Parts Services, Inc.

Interpreting a dyno plot and real world results.

www.essexparts.com

Thanks for your insights. I don’t do too much tracking, but do so occasionally. Do you think the DS2500 are good for aggressive street driving with light track use? How’s the brake dust compare to the OEM pads on the 4BW?

 

[themodern6spdsedan]

On the Corvette forum which I used to be a part of, everyone was saying good things about gyro disc brand.

Gotcha. I wonder how much different it compares to the OEM rotors on the 4BW.

 

[Bald Guy]

Wow! That’s a very nice setup you got there. Given the setup are both on all front and back wheels, that’s half the cost of a BRZ. How do you like the CUP 2 Rs?

I haven't had much experience yet with them since I just upgraded a few days ago from the 1lz z06 to the 3lz z06 with z07 package which included these tires specifically. I'm sure these are more track oriented tires and they would be better suited to high performance track driving when the weather is a bit warmer and dry out there. I really don't need these aggressive tires on the street but out on the track I would say otherwise because they could prove more useful there in that environment.

I've owned a BRZ, and those have gotten mighty expensive at close to $40,000 especially if you want the proper TS version with upgraded brakes.

Gotcha. I wonder how much different it compares to the OEM rotors on the 4BW.

Well I bet there's nothing like peace of mind and proven reliability for street driving with what comes OEM but things could change when it comes to high performance driving and where aftermarket parts could come in more up to the task like the brake componentry.

 

[nordique14]

Thanks for your insights. I don’t do too much tracking, but do so occasionally. Do you think the DS2500 are good for aggressive street driving with light track use? How’s the brake dust compare to the OEM pads on the 4BW?

If you do only occasional tracking and don’t run race tires then the DS2500 are the right pad for you. I cannot speak to the brake dust compared to stock CT4 pads as I have a CT5 with the carbon ceramic rotors. But on my GT350 the brake dust seemed similar to other pads.

 

[Super Saloon]

As others have mentioned the OEM rotors and pads sound like they suit your needs other than the brake dust, and it’s questionable if a replacement pad that fills your need has more or less dust. Have you considered ceramic coating your wheels instead, making them easier to clean? The OEM pads are good for the street and pretty great on track.

 

[themodern6spdsedan]

I haven't had much experience yet with them since I just upgraded a few days ago from the 1lz z06 to the 3lz z06 with z07 package which included these tires specifically. I'm sure these are more track oriented tires and they would be better suited to high performance track driving when the weather is a bit warmer and dry out there. I really don't need these aggressive tires on the street but out on the track I would say otherwise because they could prove more useful there in that environment.

I've owned a BRZ, and those have gotten mighty expensive at close to $40,000 especially if you want the proper TS version with upgraded brakes.


Well I bet there's nothing like peace of mind and proven reliability for street driving with what comes OEM but things could change when it comes to high performance driving and where aftermarket parts could come in more up to the task like the brake componentry.

I’m sure you can make use of the Cup 2 RS driving around the canyons. But if you’re doing some street driving on your 3LZ, I’d switch out the tires since the Cup 2 RS will wear very quickly since they’re meant for the track. I’d say use the Pilot Sport 4S for everyday driving and save the Cup 2 RS for whenever you hit the track. My opinion only.

Yup that’s true - can’t go wrong with OEM. Cadillac has proven their OEM brake system to be excellent on the streets and on the track.

 

[themodern6spdsedan]

If you do only occasional tracking and don’t run race tires then the DS2500 are the right pad for you. I cannot speak to the brake dust compared to stock CT4 pads as I have a CT5 with the carbon ceramic rotors. But on my GT350 the brake dust seemed similar to other pads.

I’m leaning towards the DS2500 since you’ve previously mentioned that it’s a great pad for both street and track use. As Super Saloon mentioned above, I’ll just ceramic coat my wheels so the brake dust comes off easier. That’ll solve worries with brake dust.

 

[themodern6spdsedan]

As others have mentioned the OEM rotors and pads sound like they suit your needs other than the brake dust, and it’s questionable if a replacement pad that fills your need has more or less dust. Have you considered ceramic coating your wheels instead, making them easier to clean? The OEM pads are good for the street and pretty great on track.

Thanks for suggesting ceramic coating…didn’t know why I didn’t think about that from the beginning. Also, as much as I like the OEM brake system on the 4BW, I’m leaning towards getting the GiroDisc 2 for rotors and the Ferodo DS2500 for pads. Worth giving it a shot just to see how it compares from the OEM rotors and OEM pads.

 

[tmc]

Thanks for suggesting ceramic coating…didn’t know why I didn’t think about that from the beginning. Also, as much as I like the OEM brake system on the 4BW, I’m leaning towards getting the GiroDisc 2 for rotors and the Ferodo DS2500 for pads. Worth giving it a shot just to see how it compares from the OEM rotors and OEM pads.

I just did this! Its a lot of work. but I'd never tried jacking up the car before. That took awhile to figure out :-/

I wish I'd seen this video prior to selecting Gtechniq C5. We'll see how it holds up.