CT4-V Harness Bar Recommendation Needed for HPDE

[techdude99]

Please let me know if you have a recommendation for a harness bar. I did a few quick searches and came up empty. Thank you.

 

[MatthewAMEL]

IMHO…harness bars are a recipe for disaster.

Use a Simpson Hybrid S and/or get a Scroth 4-point that uses OEM seat belt attachments.

OEM seats are designed to ‘break-away’ in a lay flat position in the event of a rollover. A harness bar would prevent that from happening.

 

[PL69]

IMHO…harness bars are a recipe for disaster.

Use a Simpson Hybrid S and/or get a Scroth 4-point that uses OEM seat belt attachments.

OEM seats are designed to ‘break-away’ in a lay flat position in the event of a rollover. A harness bar would prevent that from happening.

I will second this opinion, If you want to run in a fixed position your better off having a roll bar and a proper racing seat.

 

[techdude99]

IMHO…harness bars are a recipe for disaster.

Use a Simpson Hybrid S and/or get a Scroth 4-point that uses OEM seat belt attachments.

OEM seats are designed to ‘break-away’ in a lay flat position in the event of a rollover. A harness bar would prevent that from happening.

Agree with all of this. I've used the Simpson for years. Works great.

I'm willing to accept the risks to get more headroom.

 

[Yalferd]

I too would go with the Schroth harness.

 

[Emu1342]

any update on this?

 

[techdude99]

I picked up the Schroth harness for the Ford Focus and it was a good fit for our cars.

 

[Emu1342]

Nice! I'd love to see how it turned out

 

[techdude99]

I can't find pics from my car since I auctioned it but here is one from another member. It does work with the OEM high performance seats.

 

[Smoke]

IMHO…harness bars are a recipe for disaster.

Use a Simpson Hybrid S and/or get a Scroth 4-point that uses OEM seat belt attachments.

OEM seats are designed to ‘break-away’ in a lay flat position in the event of a rollover. A harness bar would prevent that from happening.

Hey Matthew,

I saw this post and was curious about the exact Simpson 4- or 5-point you bought. I also have a 2023 5 BW and would like to use the stock seat, if possible. Did you keep the stock seat or swap out to a racing seat? Did you mount to the back seat, similar to 'techdude99'?

 

[SIR ICE]

Hey Matthew,

I saw this post and was curious about the exact Simpson 4- or 5-point you bought. I also have a 2023 5 BW and would like to use the stock seat, if possible. Did you keep the stock seat or swap out to a racing seat? Did you mount to the back seat, similar to 'techdude99'?

Any brand 4-point harness with an approved FMVSS 209 4-point belt with ASM (Anti-Submarining) OR FIA 8854/98 4-point with ASM is a great choice. Schroth makes system that plugs into both the front and rear seat belt buckles, thereby utilizing all the OE seat belt 'in the event of an accident' restraint mechanisms. Unfortunately I don't think a specific version tested and approved by Schroth for your Cadillac may be available. I do understand that a version for BMWs will plug into the Cadillac OE seat belt buckles. I've used a BMW version on my 2020 Camaro. Schroth will not tell you which one works but I'm sure if you go on the Camaro forum you can find out. For street driving you can simply unbuckle the system and stow it away ... unless of course you want look like the 'Fast and Furious". And this system also works with a Frontal Head Restraint system aka HANS Device. Great see somebody spend money on Real Safety.