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[ericwilliamstevenson]

That supercharged V8 roar and whine though.. If a 6 cylinder turbo is what you want, a 911 Turbo is the one to get.

 

[SOP]

That supercharged V8 roar and whine though.. If a 6 cylinder turbo is what you want, a 911 Turbo is the one to get.

The 5's exhaust note sounds better. Hands down. 911 Turbo is easily 2-3x the cost of a 4BW, and probably considered a supercar, so I'm not sure that it has anything to do with the other.

I have absolutely no interest in Hellcats, ZL1's, ZR1's, etc

 

[Finally-a-V]

^^^^^^See, my head just hurts from all this. The whole V8 thing is how this started. I've even thought about buying the 4 now, then in two years trade the 4 AND the SUV for a 5.....Even Steven!

 

[SOP]

^^^^^^See, my head just hurts from all this. The whole V8 thing is how this started. I've even thought about buying the 4 now, then in two years trade the 4 AND the SUV for a 5.....Even Steven!

I just try to be fluid to whatever the situation is. Get the 4BW now, enjoy the car, and enjoy the 2 free days at Spring mountain. When time comes, do it again for the 5BW if you're so inclined.

 

[ericwilliamstevenson]

^^^^^^See, my head just hurts from all this. The whole V8 thing is how this started. I've even thought about buying the 4 now, then in two years trade the 4 AND the SUV for a 5.....Even Steven!

The supercharged manual V8 is also why I am here. It's the last of a legend.

That said, the 4 will be here sooner and also keep trade value if still interested in swapping to the 5.. You really can't lose.

 

[SOP]

The supercharged manual V8 is also why I am here. It's the last of a legend.

True. I'd put the chances of another V8 sc'd sedan with a manual at about... 0%.

Chances of another turbo 6, manual sedan... Not 0%.

I really like the 4BW except the exhaust noise could be louder/better. I'm not going to wait around to see what else comes in the future in regards to a balanced manual 4 door sedan, so I'm buying.

 

[Jameson's Viggen]

That supercharged V8 roar and whine though.. If a 6 cylinder turbo is what you want, a 911 Turbo is the one to get.

911 Turbo is now a $200k car depending on options lol. That's a long way from my $62k 4BW and you cannot get a manual in a 911 Turbo.

 

[ericwilliamstevenson]

911 Turbo is now a $200k car depending on options lol. That's a long way from my $62k 4BW and you cannot get a manual in a 911 Turbo.

This is true. You need to go back to a 997 gen to get the manual in a turbo.. But even then youre looking at 100k for a 10 year old car... without rear seats.

 

[Jameson's Viggen]

This is true. You need to go back to a 997 gen to get the manual in a turbo.. But even then youre looking at 100k for a 10 year old car... without rear seats.

If you take away the 6mts of BOTH Blackwings, other interesting cars come to mind. But if you are like me, and insist on the 6mt, there is a VERY small field of offerings.

 

[ericwilliamstevenson]

If you take away the 6mts of BOTH Blackwings, other interesting cars come to mind. But if you are like me, and insist on the 6mt, there is a VERY small field of offerings.

also agree.. would have likely kept my 911 turbo if it had a manual. Though the GTS 4 is also interesting..

but i digress, 'Murica!

 

[GT325]

The 992 carrreras are all “turbos” regardless of what the badge out back says. So if you want a new 911 manual turbo you can get one, it just won’t “say” turbo on the back.

 

[MatthewAMEL]

Driving a 4 is not "settling"!!!! You guys just need to drive one, I enjoy my 4 way more than my 5....Ugh!

I would have ordered a 4 is they had used the right engine. If it had been a LT1/2, it would have been epic.

 

[SOP]

I would have ordered a 4 is they had used the right engine. If it had been a LT1/2, it would have been epic.

That would've been nice indeed

 

[ericwilliamstevenson]

The 992 carrreras are all “turbos” regardless of what the badge out back says. So if you want a new 911 manual turbo you can get one, it just won’t “say” turbo on the back.

the 991.2's are all turbos as well. If I didn't need a sedan, a manual 991.2 GTS 4 would be top of list.

 

[Beamz27]

Something about a balanced car just speaks to me. For others, it's settling. For me, it's the only one I see.

I agree. The 5 is a very long car. The 4 is perfect in terms of size. Handles like a dream

 

[Beamz27]

Very well said. Plus I've thought, maybe if I buy a 4, I wouldn't "need" a 5.


I told you Steve, I always think of you when I kick this around!


I agree about that. I actually wonder if the 4 really is the better car? More balanced, more "useable" horsepower.

Definitely more balanced. But depends on what you are looking for. The 5 is a big car. A nice car but a big car. The 4 just feels perfect. I sit nice and low in it and it feels planted as all Fackkkk at highway speeds. When I drove it home from Madison WI to Chicago on Tuesday I drove between 80-90 mph the whole way home on some great Wisconsin highway road and it reminded me of my dads Z51 C7 w how planted it was. Much more rigid and planted than my ATSV coupe was and extremely similar to my 19 SS.

 

[jumpmanjay]

Definitely more balanced. But depends on what you are looking for. The 5 is a big car. A nice car but a big car. The 4 just feels perfect. I sit nice and low in it and it feels planted as all Fackkkk at highway speeds. When I drove it home from Madison WI to Chicago on Tuesday I drove between 80-90 mph the whole way home on some great Wisconsin highway road and it reminded me of my dads Z51 C7 w how planted it was. Much more rigid and planted than my ATSV coupe was and extremely similar to my 19 SS.

Careful in Wisconsin. They LOVE giving Illinois drivers tickets.

 

[xeerohour]

There are those of us who specifically picked a 4 over a 5. For me, cost was a factor - I'd rather have a 4 and a Miata than just a 5 - but even if it wasn't, there's reasons for either one. I will say, I do agree the 5 sounds better.

I personally think they're both fantastic cars that just have different target markets. FWIW I believe the manual transmission models of both will hold their values well.

 

[Mike Martz]

If you take away the 6mts of BOTH Blackwings, other interesting cars come to mind. But if you are like me, and insist on the 6mt, there is a VERY small field of offerings.

My thoughts exactly!

 

[Ergoc5]

also agree.. would have likely kept my 911 turbo if it had a manual. Though the GTS 4 is also interesting..

but i digress, 'Murica!

If I may ask which gen 911 turbo did you have and did you sell it to replace with the BW? I am mulling over selling my 997.2 TTS but may regret it. I have a Golf R daily which I will probably keep. Don't have space for 3 cars.