Dealers That Are Not Charging Above MSRP

[njech7]

Who was your sales person? I’m trying to order a 4BW manual with them and they want $2500 markup.

I'm guessing he got an auto.

 

[Yalferd]

Who was your sales person? I’m trying to order a 4BW manual with them and they want $2500 markup.

My salesperson was Raj Singh. I have to note that I bought off the lot and didin't order

 

[floatingbarrel]

4 months ago I talked to Steven Creek they wanted 20k markup for ordering 5BW

 

[BimmerFan]

A little off topic, but it appears that the gouging, er... used car market is softening just a little. My stepson knew that I was looking and told me about this one that he saw on FB marketplace. The clip below is from cars.com

I've already found a car (new, MSRP) for less money, but note here the "price drop". And yes, 251 miles is nothing, but it is technically a used car. And an automatic.

 

[Ivy1Le]

A little off topic, but it appears that the gouging, er... used car market is softening just a little. My stepson knew that I was looking and told me about this one that he saw on FB marketplace. The clip below is from cars.com

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I've already found a car (new, MSRP) for less money, but note here the "price drop". And yes, 251 miles is nothing, but it is technically a used car. And an automatic.

This practice isn't unusual. A last hoorah before taking their chances at auction, as that's likely the price they expect at auction and would be fee free. If it doesn't sell at auction they'll jack the price back up and go on about "market price" blah blah.

 

[TwinSkrullDesign]

Purchased my 2023 CT4-V Blackwing (loaded minus exterior carbon packages) at Bergstrom Cadillac in Madison, WI on 8/7/23 at “invoice” plus the $4K GM rebate…thought it was a helluva deal for this current market.

 

[668LT4]

Purchased my 2023 CT4-V Blackwing (loaded minus exterior carbon packages) at Bergstrom Cadillac in Madison, WI on 8/7/23 at “invoice” plus the $4K GM rebate…thought it was a helluva deal for this current market.

Strictly curious, does that amount to say 10k off of sticker? Not sure what invoice is compared to MSRP. At that #, I would consider adding a 4 just to have the pair.

 

[TwinSkrullDesign]

Strictly curious, does that amount to say 10k off of sticker? Not sure what invoice is compared to MSRP. At that #, I would consider adding a 4 just to have the pair.

No, it was a little over $7K off.

When I purchased my 2016 ATS-V in 2017...I was able to get $20K off of sticker and the dealership paid for my trip to Spring Mountain (They didn't offer the driving school for 2016 models). Traded in my 2015 Perfect Blue Chevy SS Sedan (6-spd manual) for the ATS-V

 

[savethemanual]

No, it was a little over $7K off.

When I purchased my 2016 ATS-V in 2017...I was able to get $20K off of sticker and the dealership paid for my trip to Spring Mountain (They didn't offer the driving school for 2016 models). Traded in my 2015 Perfect Blue Chevy SS Sedan (6-spd manual) for the ATS-V

Auto or manual?

 

[TwinSkrullDesign]

Auto or manual?

10-spd Auto
MSRP: $76,960.00

 

[668LT4]

No, it was a little over $7K off.

When I purchased my 2016 ATS-V in 2017...I was able to get $20K off of sticker and the dealership paid for my trip to Spring Mountain (They didn't offer the driving school for 2016 models). Traded in my 2015 Perfect Blue Chevy SS Sedan (6-spd manual) for the ATS-V

Thanks Sir. I would have thought invoice was a bit less, but admittedly, I have never negotiated against invoice. Congratulations on your deal. If / when manuals far that far down I'll be tempted.

 

[Ivy1Le]

Thanks Sir. I would have thought invoice was a bit less, but admittedly, I have never negotiated against invoice. Congratulations on your deal. If / when manuals far that far down I'll be tempted.

When things go back to "normal" you could spec out a GM car on GM Family First build and price tool and it will tell you the employee price. Should be pretty darn close to the invoice price. Unfortunately it's not working for these cars at the moment as they aren't eligible but an example below

2023 Camaro ZL1 1G1FK1R60P0149349
MSRP - $73,975
Employee Price - $68,832
[placeholder for invoice price if I can ever get an employee to provide it for S&G, maybe @1StunnaV can help]

 

[MookdocOE]

Strictly curious, does that amount to say 10k off of sticker? Not sure what invoice is compared to MSRP. At that #, I would consider adding a 4 just to have the pair.

I know I thought same thing...would love to bang on the 4

 

[Beamz27]

10-spd Auto
MSRP: $76,960.00

I was thinking about grabbing that one as I bought my 22 4BW fully loaded from Bergstrom at msrp but I couldn’t get past the no CF and I think they ordered that one w the suede wheel too right?

 

[668LT4]

I know I thought same thing...would love to bang on the 4

I owned one for about 2,000 miles while waiting for my 5 to arrive. I definitely prefer the Supercharged V8 and its unique attributes, but the 4 was fun to scoot around in. If the prices keep dropping, at some point I could see having one of each as Tall Steve does. But it could never replace the 5 for me.

 

[Tall Steve]

I owned one for about 2,000 miles while waiting for my 5 to arrive. I definitely prefer the Supercharged V8 and its unique attributes, but the 4 was fun to scoot around in. If the prices keep dropping, at some point I could see having one of each as Tall Steve does. But it could never replace the 5 for me.

I do really love my 4BW, but it was fun driving my 5BW last weekend... I sometime forget how nice the 5 is to drive...

 

[668LT4]

I do really love my 4BW, but it was fun driving my 5BW last weekend... I sometime forget how nice the 5 is to drive...

They really are very different machines to drive. Both great. 5 for my tastes.

 

[TwinSkrullDesign]

I was thinking about grabbing that one as I bought my 22 4BW fully loaded from Bergstrom at msrp but I couldn’t get past the no CF and I think they ordered that one w the suede wheel too right?

Yes, it has the suede "sport wheel".

I'm really not a fan of the CF aero packages, so it looks like it worked out for both of us.

 

[rubberduck]

I do really love my 4BW, but it was fun driving my 5BW last weekend... I sometime forget how nice the 5 is to drive...

I have a harsh life because I have only one car and I’m forced to drive the 5 all the time. Except for the rare bad weather and then I drive the Jeep. I hope others can sympathize with my dire situation.

 

[Dirkbg]