Ceramics

[themodern6spdsedan]

Also going from considering Redstuff/OEM to XP12 is quite a jump. Those pads aren't even in the same realm. What moved you to go that route?

Just reflecting on my driving style, the XP12s seem to be a better fit than Redstuff/OEM. I drive aggressively and plan on tracking a few times a month. I need an all around brake pads that would be sufficient enough for the track, but also enough for aggressive driving in the streets. I found that the XP12s provide that balance.

I was also thinking about the 1521s, but they aren’t really recommended for track use (maybe for light tracking). Also was looking at the AX6 pads, but heard that it’s too sensitive and touchy when tracking, so won’t be going with those. So right now, I’m leaning 80% towards the XP12s and 20% for the 1521s.

 

[RDATLTE]

The ZL1 1LE never had carbon ceramics as an option. Perhaps, you were thinking about the previous generation's Z/28?

 

[tmc]

I feel stupid asking this question cause I consider myself a car guy and should know an answer to probably a simple car question.

I’ll be needing new brake pads and rotors soon - can anyone please tell me if I need special rotors to run ceramic brake pads? Or will stock rotors be fine? Also was wondering, would I need to change the calipers to run ceramics?

Please share what brand ceramic brake pads and rotors you all have and/or recommend using. I was thinking Windhammer or Redstuff for the brake pads and GiroDisc 2 for the rotors. Sorry for the dumb questions. Thanks for all your inputs.

I know the car doesn't have any temp sensors in the brakes and uses an algorithm to approximate it. If you're not tracking the car, I assume its a non-issue.

If you do run the car hard at the track, changing the pad compound might make the calculations done by the braking module incorrect? Not sure if that matters.

 

[fordperfaddict]

Do ceramic pads affect braking performance ? Are they no go for aggressive driving and track use most of the time when paired with oem iron rotors?

 

[themodern6spdsedan]

Yes, ceramic pads do affect braking performance. They’re great for street use, but isn’t ideal for track use, especially if you’re a heavy or aggressive track driver. Semi-metallic pads would be more suitable for heavy track use as it’s designed to handle the heat generated during aggressive driving.

So, even if you decide to go with ceramic brake pads and use OEM iron rotors, you’re still at a disadvantage simply because ceramic pads have much lower heat tolerance than semi-metallic pads, thus affecting braking performance at the track.

 

[Matt27]

Just reflecting on my driving style, the XP12s seem to be a better fit than Redstuff/OEM. I drive aggressively and plan on tracking a few times a month. I need an all around brake pads that would be sufficient enough for the track, but also enough for aggressive driving in the streets. I found that the XP12s provide that balance.

I was also thinking about the 1521s, but they aren’t really recommended for track use (maybe for light tracking). Also was looking at the AX6 pads, but heard that it’s too sensitive and touchy when tracking, so won’t be going with those. So right now, I’m leaning 80% towards the XP12s and 20% for the 1521s.

XP12s are probably going to eat rotors with street driving and are specifically flagged as not for street driving given they need a lot of temp to actually bite and will dust like crazy.

Believe Carbotech advertises all their compounds as compatible so you can flip from 1521s to XP12s when needed, but the XP12 is a real race pad and even aggressive street driving isn't going to have them at the right temps very often unless you're commuting on the Tail of the Dragon or something.

 

[Bald Guy]

Not that it matters but I switched up my iron brake Corvettes for ceramic brake Corvettes and the initial bite is very weak because the braking system needs to build up heat as they are meant for track use and high performance driving.

 

[themodern6spdsedan]

XP12s are probably going to eat rotors with street driving and are specifically flagged as not for street driving given they need a lot of temp to actually bite and will dust like crazy.

Believe Carbotech advertises all their compounds as compatible so you can flip from 1521s to XP12s when needed, but the XP12 is a real race pad and even aggressive street driving isn't going to have them at the right temps very often unless you're commuting on the Tail of the Dragon or something.

Gotcha. Thanks for your insights. What would you recommend for aggressive street driving and occasional light track use?