Buying a pre-owned high MSRP 2024 CT5VBW or a new 2025 model?

[flaudia402]

I am in the market for purchasing a CT5V-BW with the manual transmission and am torn on the choices. Would love to have some feedback from those of you with more experience with these cars.

Option 1:
2024 CT5V-BW high MSRP 131k, has all the options I love, CCB, upgraded leather with carbon backs, Carbon pack 1 and 2, sunroof (don't care for, but it's on there). 1400 miles, front PPF, ceramic coated from previous owner. $115k.

Option 2:
Any 2025 CT5V-BW. The precision pack is out of budget for me. I likely will buy one that's in transit or on the showroom floor. Main thing I'm after is Carbon pack 1 at a minimum and the carbon backs on the seats. Don't care for a sunroof and can live without the CCB. Priced anywhere from 105-123k as spec'd. Will have to pay at least 123-125k to get the equivalent above.

On the '25 models, I like the interior refresh and screen. I'm impartial to the exterior refresh. Sort of prefer the '24 look. I guess what I'm trying to consider is the '24 is the previous generation, and paying a premium for a heavily optioned car with relatively low miles. With a '25 I'm getting a new car, but lower spec in relation.

Thoughts, comments, advice? Thank you in advance.

 

[T.O.Blackwing]

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CT5-V Post in thread 'Manual 25 Blackwing no blindspot monitoring. Why'

Jan 16, 2025

What’s the deleted volume knob reference? Curious to get more info on the manual transmission blind spot omission and volume knob deletion 2025+.. I’d like to see why/how just manuals.

The only way to adjust volume for a 6MT 25 5V BWs is on the steering wheel. There is no volume knob like the 25 5V BW A10s have.

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[oz2435]

I would go with the '24. Although I am a little biased, owning a /24 myself. However, the '24 manual has the blind spot monitoring, and a physical volume knob to name a few while the '25 doesn't have those things. I don't track my car but do love my CCB, much less brake dust. If the PPF and ceramic coating is from a reputable place that is at least worth $3k-$6k as well. I paid that much for mine. GL with your choice.

 

[beamon]

I also vote for the 24 model. I have one similar to the one you listed minus sunroof. For me, the added options add to the experience of the car, especially the top tier seats and ceramic brakes. I also want a car I like the aesthetics of, and the older front end still looks more aggressive and cohesive to me. It might be more difficult to find a 25 with desired options in the right color with a manual.

 

[nordique14]

I went with the 25. But only because I wanted the Precision Package and the update PDR. If you do not care about those things then a lightly used 24 is a better value. Plus you get a volume knob and blind spot detection.

 

[T.O.Blackwing]

Provided it’s been priced correctly, you will also likely avoid its first year of depreciation, usually the worst year for that, as well as any increase in price due to inflation.

 

[TruckeeTaurus]

I bought a ‘25. I’m hoping the documented issues that the ‘21-‘24 LT4s have are worked out. When I brought my BW5 in for the first oil change the other day, one of the mechanics made a comment about the ‘21-‘24 LT4 engine having so many problems by 22k miles that he would never buy one. Not sure if he’s just a hater or if his info is legit.

 

[TruckeeTaurus]

Just googled it, and apparently they did a recall/stop-sale on the LT4 in trucks… not sure how different the engines in the BW is.

 

[T.O.Blackwing]

I bought a ‘25. I’m hoping the documented issues that the ‘21-‘24 LT4s have are worked out. When I brought my BW5 in for the first oil change the other day, one of the mechanics made a comment about the ‘21-‘24 LT4 engine having so many problems by 22k miles that he would never buy one. Not sure if he’s just a hater or if his info is legit.

I’ve owned a ‘22 and now own a ‘24 (there was no ‘21), have been on this forum all that time, and have had no LT4 engine issues or problems, nor read anything on here to suspect that there are any.
Some have blown, yes, but it’s never been established that it’s an unusually high number, nor that anything was changed in ‘25 Blackwing LT4s to make them any different: i.e., it’s exactly the same engine.
The mechanic probably thinks it’s the same engine as goes into the trucks.

 

[T.O.Blackwing]

Just googled it, and apparently they did a recall/stop-sale on the LT4 in trucks… not sure how different the engines in the BW is.

A.I. messes up again.
The 6.2 in the trucks is NOT an LT4, it’s an L87.
Just because your cousin has herpes doesn’t mean you do, too.
Unless you’re doing unnatural things with her.
My own experience when I’ve brought my Blackwings in for an oil change is that everyone at the dealership, including the mechanics, drools over it.

 

[football76]

I went with a '24 to avoid the first year depreciation, I like the front end better and the factory warranty is plenty even with a year off the clock. While the interior update to get the nicer screen would've been cool I just use CarPlay 99.9% of the time and it works great on the '24. That said, I had to hunt to find one in the spec I wanted with low miles (no abuse). My vote is for the '24 unless you're going after the precision pack.

 

[hawk02]

I saw that all BW carbon fiber is currently on constraint. Don't know how long that has been going on but it may be difficult to find a 2025 with any CF stages.

The absence of blind spot sensors on the manual '25s would be a deal breaker for me. I could live without the volume knob. It would be annoying as hell but no way could I live without the blind spot sensors.

I'm curious what the MRSP was for the 2024. $115K seems reasonable considering it has the stage 1 & 2 CF, CCBs, and low mileage. I'm guessing sticker price was close to $130K.

 

[KnightI2]

Unless the refresh of PDR, Front fascia, and dash where must haves there is no decision to be made for me.
Option 1 wins hands down all day long. No blind spot monitoring and no volume knob difference just make this an easier pick.

 

[conipc]

I am in the market for purchasing a CT5V-BW with the manual transmission and am torn on the choices. Would love to have some feedback from those of you with more experience with these cars.

Option 1:
2024 CT5V-BW high MSRP 131k, has all the options I love, CCB, upgraded leather with carbon backs, Carbon pack 1 and 2, sunroof (don't care for, but it's on there). 1400 miles, front PPF, ceramic coated from previous owner. $115k.

Option 2:
Any 2025 CT5V-BW. The precision pack is out of budget for me. I likely will buy one that's in transit or on the showroom floor. Main thing I'm after is Carbon pack 1 at a minimum and the carbon backs on the seats. Don't care for a sunroof and can live without the CCB. Priced anywhere from 105-123k as spec'd. Will have to pay at least 123-125k to get the equivalent above.

On the '25 models, I like the interior refresh and screen. I'm impartial to the exterior refresh. Sort of prefer the '24 look. I guess what I'm trying to consider is the '24 is the previous generation, and paying a premium for a heavily optioned car with relatively low miles. With a '25 I'm getting a new car, but lower spec in relation.

Thoughts, comments, advice? Thank you in advance.

The key for me would be warranty...these cars are off the charts for significant repairs. CPO is the only way I would buy ANY car, particularly Blackwings

 

[flaudia402]

The key for me would be warranty...these cars are off the charts for significant repairs. CPO is the only way I would buy ANY car, particularly Blackwings

A 2024 is still under factory remaining warranty correct? Does the 4 year, 50k mile not transfer?

 

[DCV]

It transfers and the car should be CPO which gives you an extra two years I think. If you buy at the dealer. I’d get the 24 due to the carbon packages and the CCB.

 

[TruckeeTaurus]

A.I. messes up again.
The 6.2 in the trucks is NOT an LT4, it’s an L87.
Just because your cousin has herpes doesn’t mean you do, too.
Unless you’re doing unnatural things with her.
My own experience when I’ve brought my Blackwings in for an oil change is that everyone at the dealership, including the mechanics, drools over it.

Oh for sure. Two of the mechanics were oggley eyed… this dude was just the old surly SOB of the crew.

 

[668LT4]

A.I. messes up again.
The 6.2 in the trucks is NOT an LT4, it’s an L87.
Just because your cousin has herpes doesn’t mean you do, too.
Unless you’re doing unnatural things with her.
My own experience when I’ve brought my Blackwings in for an oil change is that everyone at the dealership, including the mechanics, drools over it.

LOL, 100%!

2025 LT4 is same as 22-24. Accept it apparently has a more poorly made drain pan plug. Wonder what else is cheaper in it as well. Happens most ever model year, manufacturers buy cheaper parts to lower their cost.

For the OP, Option 1 seems far and away the best choice here.

 

[565565]

As an owner of a 2022 CT5 V Blackwing, I would say go with Option 2, the 2025 model.

It appears GM finally had to admit that the 6.2L L87 V8 had machining issues that caused 28,000+ rod and main bearing failures in slightly less than 600,000 vehicles. The recall they made goes up to 2024, but not 2025 which hopefully means they identified the source of the machining debris causing the issue.

The newer LT4s in the 5 Blackwing and Escalade V are different from the prior LT4s in the C7 Z06, ZL1 and V3, and also suffer an unusually high rate of bottom end failure, whereas the older LT4s had the usual lifter issues but had a stout bottom end. The actual number is speculative, but about a dozen CT5 V forum members have had bottom end engine failures. By comparison I haven't seen a single LF4 bottom end reported failure on this forum, so its not a normal or expected number of failures.

Perhaps if GM identified the issue in the L87, and the mode of failure is similar to reported failures in the new LT4, then they made similar changes to the 2025 LT4 to correct that.

It is purely speculative of course, but if it turns out that the 2025 LT4s are perceived to have corrected the issue, then it will be an absolute wallop on the values of the prelift cars.

Look at 991.1 GT3 vs 991.2 GT3 values. The 991.1 car had a finger follower issue that caused engine failures. The actual number of failures was highly speculative. Porsche even tried to correct the issue with new engines for owners. Even so 991.1 values are roughly half of 991.2 values. The perception is key here. The car was seen as tainted and customers quickly learned to stay away. That is already happening with this new LT4. Customers coming from other platforms are already weary and informed of the reports of widespread engine failures even if the actual number isn't that high. If the 2025 LT4 returns to prior levels of reliability, the 2022-2024 cars will tank in value, even if the number of actual failures are low. It is one thing to already own a 2022-2024 LT4 (like me) and just dealing with an engine failure if it happens, but I certainly would be cautious buying one now.

 

[T.O.Blackwing]

As an owner of a 2022 CT5 V Blackwing, I would say go with Option 2, the 2025 model.

It appears GM finally had to admit that the 6.2L L87 V8 had machining issues that caused 28,000+ rod and main bearing failures in slightly less than 600,000 vehicles. The recall they made goes up to 2024, but not 2025 which hopefully means they identified the source of the machining debris causing the issue.

The newer LT4s in the 5 Blackwing and Escalade V are different from the prior LT4s in the C7 Z06, ZL1 and V3, and also suffer an unusually high rate of bottom end failure, whereas the older LT4s had the usual lifter issues but had a stout bottom end. The actual number is speculative, but about a dozen CT5 V forum members have had bottom end engine failures. By comparison I haven't seen a single LF4 bottom end reported failure on this forum, so its not a normal or expected number of failures.

Perhaps if GM identified the issue in the L87, and the mode of failure is similar to reported failures in the new LT4, then they made similar changes to the 2025 LT4 to correct that.

It is purely speculative of course, but if it turns out that the 2025 LT4s are perceived to have corrected the issue, then it will be an absolute wallop on the values of the prelift cars.

Look at 991.1 GT3 vs 991.2 GT3 values. The 991.1 car had a finger follower issue that caused engine failures. The actual number of failures was highly speculative. Porsche even tried to correct the issue with new engines for owners. Even so 991.1 values are roughly half of 991.2 values. The perception is key here. The car was seen as tainted and customers quickly learned to stay away. That is already happening with this new LT4. Customers coming from other platforms are already weary and informed of the reports of widespread engine failures even if the actual number isn't that high. If the 2025 LT4 returns to prior levels of reliability, the 2022-2024 cars will tank in value, even if the number of actual failures are low. It is one thing to already own a 2022-2024 LT4 (like me) and just dealing with an engine failure if it happens, but I certainly would be cautious buying one now.

None of these is tanking in value but that’s highly speculative of course!