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I asked my salesperson about ordering the 2025 4BW yesterday. They haven't heard anything yet.

I'm looking for a CT4-V BW. Let me know if you have any others in transit.

Is this for the 4BW or 5BW? I can't seem them announcing the vehicle updates (5BW) and then waiting 6 months for orders.

I went to test drive a 6MT 4BW yesterday. It had a sunroof in it. It definitely takes a lot of headroom out of the rear (fine in the drivers seat). I could barely fit my head in.

I test drove a CT4 BW 6MT today. I took it around some good curves that I regularly drive in my Z. They are pretty slow, but the rear started to come out in 2nd gear. The traction control was on, so it allows some movement of the rear. The good thing is that you could feel it in the chassis...

This works as long as you don't care about the color/options. I can't find a 6MT with the color I want at all (I set the search to 2000 miles).

Sorry to change topics. Do your kids fit fine in the back for short trips? I've debating if the 4BW has a big enough back seat.

I like having a sunroof, but this thread has me thinking about height issues in the back. I'm 5'10" and fit in the back of a 4BW without a sunroof. My kids might eventually have issues with a sunroof. My son will probably be taller than me in a couple of years.

I agree, but it's a starting point. They are making a ton on the cf packages, so they can move more on those.

Is this a 6MT? Curious on pricing for 6MT vs A10.

I liked the idea of the 4BW being on lots. I'm realizing that almost all of them are A10s. I found 1 with a 6MT (and jet black interior) within 500 miles. Looks like I'd have to order a 2025 to get the 4BW and a 6MT.

I'm really not a fan of the BMW brand, but they typically make good M cars. I've always bought on the capability of the vehicle with luxury being a low priority. The current market for a 4 dour sport cars has very limited options.

I feel like I would stretch to get the competition. I was originally interested in the non-competition, but reviews of the 6MT were bad. I haven't found one to test drive.

I've read that in many forums and reviews. I'm on the fence on which transmission. I feel like the ZF 8 speed and S58 are the way to go for auto. Manual go with a 4BW.

That's a future concern, but we have three vehicles now (SUV, Truck, 350Z). I've kept the Z for so long, since it hasn't been practical to buy another 2 seat car. I've looked at the M2 as well. I don't want to go to the CT5. I done all my own work on the my Z, so easy repairs would be nice...

I'm currently in the M3 vs CT4 BW debate. I currently have a 350z 6MT. I love how nimble the car feels when turning/changing lanes/etc. I initially shopped a C8, but I have kids and wife wants a 4 door car. I want more power. Interior quality isn't a big concern, since either car is an upgrade...

I prefer to get a non-special edition. Curious if anyone has gotten more than the $3k.

I've been looking at an M3 (on the waitlist). Just stopped by the Cadillac dealership to test drive a CT4 BW. They have 3 special edition (arrival), but can get exactly what I built moved from another dealership. Can you negotiate and get any off MSRP?