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Must be 2024 math. 22 math must have bugs and was sunset.

Look at Rob’s thread. It shows all the new stats in addition to weight.

Those special editions at some point at some dealers were going for 15-20k off because no one wanted to pay that much for stickers. At that price ur at CT5 BW

So the 2025 shows a weight of 4301 lbs vs 22-24 of 4123 lbs for a manual. If this is correct, I’m glad I got a 23. Weight is enemy of performance and to go up 178 lbs for new front, headlights and center console without any performance improvement is crazy. Heck BMW M CS tax charges you 20-30...

Must be all that new software! Ha!

Don’t like the front. Makes it look more like a robot face on a transformer.

Splitters I think are now $2500 and that doesn’t include labor.

I got it. Took one wheel of track. For how much just a splitter and front bumper costs these days, it’s cheap insurance

Meaning if u decide to cancel, u can just have someone use your credit to get the class for free.

you can gift the class to someone. Since im the first one to mention this, I call dibs!

Heard sometimes if u wash the car and let the car sit, the pads rust into rotor on the BW. Someone mentioned to always drive ur car around a bit to get excess water off the brakes after wash to prevent this. The neutral test would check this.

RWD type R with a S58 stuffed in it under 3400 lbs please. Ha!

I didn’t hear it much when temps were above 50 but as it got to 40s, it started. Yes it’s also getting on my nerves but now it’s snowing out and my car will set for 3 months so won’t have to listen to it for a while.

What type of ticking noise do you have. I also have a ticking noise and I think it comes from my hvac. Sounds like a loud hand clock. When I turn off hvac especially on a cold day, it stop. Is driving me nuts.

I also had a deposit on M2 and pulled if after some research. My neighbor actually has one. 1. I’m only 5’6 and my head touched the headliner in back seat. No go for my kids who will be in HS soon and won’t fit. 2. Fast but numb. Seems like most folks here came from other slush box numb...

How do you like your type s? Any issue with putting power down? Is it as fun as BW?

You guys are funny stating you can wail on a 4BW on the street and not get arrested. Where I live most roads are 45 mph and hwy 60. Those numbers come very quickly in a 4BW. Heck top of 3rd gear on a 4 BW, your at speeds where u can get arrested. Both 4 and 5 BWs and most M cars will easily...

carandbid had a 2022 5BW manual with CF1/2 with 10k miles. Went for $85k. The values definitely have come down.

I wonder the same thing if I should have gone with a type r or 4BW. 5 is crazy bonkers when I drove it on track but on road it’s $100k that u get to use 25 percent of its potential. But fomo might have got me and now depreciation hit might have me just keep it forever. Oh the 1st world problems.

At Spring Mt, the novice 5BWs were running around 4-5 secs faster than novice 4BWs on East track. For north track, 5BWs were running 2-3 secs faster than 4BWs. If you’re in a 4 BW and even if you have had a lot of fast road driving, you really have to hustle in a 4BW to beat out the 5BWs even...