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Compare 0-60 of auto to auto and manual to manual and you won't find the same spread of 3.8 vs 4.0

Pretty sure it's what, 100lbs heavier? 100lbs is worth about 10hp. My wagon. Feels so much faster right now because it's borderline dangerous at putting down power lol.

None. Lol.

Spot DIRECTLY in front of the restaurant

My phone's algorithm doesn't see a difference between my wife's car and mine lol

I'm sad my car wasn't involved but I get it. The minute I saw Sam Car Legion had this car from the Press Fleet, I knew it would get passed around. It's far more convenient for TH to use a press car than use a car from private hands.

Oddly, I see a lot of parallels in how they treated the ATS becoming the CT4 in the change of 6th to 7th gen Mustang. Both have the glass/roof hard points unchanged, a focus on updating the interior, updated Mag ride and small improvements to suspension/brakes etc.

I still don't think they've LL'd the 4 to it's potential. GM's ran 'em to 2.52. The new Mustang is over 39xxlbs. So the 20hp over the Mach1 won't do anything. I think they are running Trofeo Rs though which will make the difference. Be damn certain, the Trofeos would cut time off a BlackWing...

DarkHorse with PP is about $70k. I'd love to see a head to head, track and street win a 4Blackwing.

Product vs Perception I swear it's a Ted talk I give weekly at work lol .

32mph in 2nd gear is hurting the BW more than the other cars due to the gearing. He also didn't take traction control completely off so it might have been cutting power, especially if the track was a little damp.

I do not think it will be a fad.

Yes, the BlackWing for all intents and purposes is a refreshed ATS-V. But what can affect values is the BW is seen as a send off, a last hurrah of an ICE car, especially one with a manual. We've seen how the last of something can hold value better than others...example the last air cooled 911...

Dealers are often clueless. Im also not an idiot. I've had a dealer sell me an APR intake and APR tune on a VW and then claim the intake was causing my brake issue. It took a two second conversation to call them out and get the warrantied repair.

I've seen it mentioned a few places now.

Not sure. I would think so.

The thing to remember is, the cars now cost $2500+ more than '22. So employee pricing wouldn't do much in my case. The base C8 is $68k now. But I think the C8 and Lyriq are still excluded.

Today is day1 where employee pricing is applied to BlackWings. Too late for me lol.

Doesn't sound right. I'll have to try that out

Are you in neutral or park?