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Yep. I remember thinking Gen 6's for $74k was way too much and then a friend pointed me to the dealer in TX for ~$60k. I looked at comps with other models and brands. Drove the more expensive Corvette, GT350 R, Cayman GT4, Cayman S, and then spoke with a few owners. Everyone that had a Camaro...

@mfgmike Thank you for sharing. You did a lot better than me several years ago. Looks like things are finally getting somewhat back to normal for cars that have been sitting. I'm happy to see dealers feeling a bit of pain after convincing people to pay crazy ADM's. A little karma is nice. I...

I can't justify $100k+ for what it is. I do miss the sound and torque of the Camaro's LT4 but the CT5 BW doesn't have the upscale interior feel befitting the price. My Panamera 4S was $110k and it feels like it. I'll wait and pick up a used '22 when the prices with PDR, CF1, and High...

I'd say it's not special enough with the exception of the paint that is amazing. Tan seats...meh, no sunroof = good for me but many want one. Unfortunately, not many major options other than paint, seats, and climate. No HUD, PDR, CF1 or CF2, etc... I'm surprised it wasn't closer to MSRP, but...

As the title says, I'm excited to get my CT4-V Blackwing on the track and Apex makes some awesome wheels that would work out great. There are even more options for CT5-V BW owners so let's see some! Thank you!

People want what they can't have. The Camaro and CT4&5 BW's will level out and go back up after production stops. Look at what happened with the Chevy SS and similar cars, especially manuals, but that's the nature of cars that have something special or nostalgic.

Pre-Covid the Camaro's were not selling. GM did their annual 15-20% end of year discount to get the cars off the lots. It kills me how many people are paying ridiculous prices for vehicles. Dealer sales staff think the public are fools and the manufacturers are killing it with record profits...

I would like to know as well

A lot of the Cadillac dealers ordered configurations that didn't take into account the main appeal, a manual transmission sedan. They just went with what they thought the local market would want and didn't take into account the rareity of a manual. No surprises there... As far as trade-in...

I had a chance to get a Circuit at MSRP and passed. I put in a front facing no problem. Rear facing seat should be fine. There's more room back there than the CT4 and Acura ITS. I've haven't checked out the FL5 rear seat yet. My '17 FK8 had plenty.

I sold my 3400 mile '19 ZLE for a 405 mile '22 CT4-V BW. I'll post back after the break in.

My guess is the exterior bling factor.

I decided to go with the carbon fiber seats and adjusted the order. Almost went CCB's but they seem to be finicky in cold climates. I asked about waiting for the '25 refresh and they were able to confirm a '25 CT5 but not the Blackwing. Just found out that GM accepted the '24 build and I'm...

I'm 5'11, 220 lbs. and have a ZL1 1LE. I can't speak to the regular V, but the BW base seats are comfortable for long trips but need more lateral support when pushed. Nothing like the ZLE seats, which are much more supportive.They're also very easy to get in and out of quickly. Mid- level...

Thanks for posting. Not a fan of the base seats but it has some great options

Thanks for confirming.

Two questions about the high performance seats: 1. Is there a big difference in comfort and bolstering/snugness between the two high performance seat options on long road trips or track time. 2. The massage function on my Escalade turns off after 20 minutes and there's no way to extend the...

I believe that's baked in and can't be removed.

Is there a consumer product? I went to the site and it seems that it's only geared toward dealers and required sending an inquiry to get pricing after they verify your business.

I'm older and not driving a car, time to consider moving on. Good news is the '22 resale benefits from the '23 MSRP price hike. Currently, I'd list it for '22 MSRP and expect a little less. In several months.... hard to say....GM is offering bigger discounts on the CT4-V Blackwing's and just...