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The Zunn ones look significantly wider/thicker than the madtrace ones, so maybe there is less flex there. Or it's just because the photos are close up. I'll find out if the china special ones work though.

Wonder how you can do it without removing the wheel if it is possible to do it that way.

What was the install like? Looks like this is a source for them off of aliexpress. (Images don't seem to match up)...

Thanks for the welcome. I think I'd consider paying a bit more too (maybe not too much more) if they're willing to come down on the amount of people.

I just got my 4 and I'd be interested in it too