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One day, they are going to make batteries 1/2 the weight of current batteries. At that point, EVs will not only be faster straight line, but will also handle better in the turns. With Toyota or was it Honda working in a manual function for EVs where u have to shift, and it even mimics the...

Since the new model ordering starts on 5/4. Maybe MY23 is 5/3??

On that note, Feb it seemed like there was a massive release of MY2023 CT5BW. A lot of those have sold down and the market seems to have settled down on the number of BW manuals sitting around on lots. Probably trying to get the 23s out before they start working on the 24s in couple months.

Maybe they are cancelling it and all the 4BW manual owners will own a small prod unicorn.

Any news on how much the 24s will go up in price?

Just took out the beast for the first time since getting in Dec! Drove it 30 miles and 2 stalls and traded it in! Yep it’s gone. But on the bright side, new one lands in mid May!

Just saw the update to 4B00. It’s locked up in the goat pen. Sad…

I have been at 3800 for 3 wks now. I scratch my head.

The amt of hate I get from the G87 folks because I cancelled my order is crazy. Maybe the CT4BW comparison will help.

Man - how long does a car stay 3800?? Been 3 wks.

Maybe they will let the CT4 BW loaner get to drive the m2

My current car is 99500. New spec is $99700. If dealer gives me $95k for example, yes I don’t pay for tax but still out $4500 to just switch from black to blue car. Hence why I would sell bat and then buy new car without losing any money. On other hand, I can walk away from deal with dealer...

Just so people don’t mean mug me. I am selling just to recoup my costs (tax and shipping). I got this from a cancelled order. My local dealer ping me and I got to place a new order. They said I can trade in my car with 4 miles and I said hopefully they give me msrp. But they are not sure...

Why not - will try in couple weeks. But now I have to take 100 pictures which is the pain in the butt part. Maybe I’ll do it when there isn’t snow on the ground in the background.

Wow - I had my car listed for $106500 on cars.com and no one bit. It only has 4 miles and similar spec in manual. How this person got that much for similar spec is baffling.

driving the truck is fine from light to light but man parking the dang barge is a pain. Just an emotionless car even though it can go 0-60 in 6.2 secs which is pretty darn quick for a truck.

How does anyone else deal with parking their BW all winter long while driving a boring car. I have always driven a sport sedan or coupe the last 15 yrs (3 series, m2) all year round. Sold my m2 during Covid due to dumb used car values and bought a boring ridgeline truck to haul the kids...

I bought my car from Ralph. Smooth operation and he shipped it to MN.

I wonder if there was a big push to her 2023 out of the pen in Feb. There was a lot of CT5 BWs a month ago but seems like they are starting to disappear again. Several around me have started disappearing again.

I think if you search around you can find yourself a 5 BW at msrp. I am going to trade mine in which only has 4 miles on it in couple months for the exact spec that I wanted. Trade in is black, with black interior with bronze wheel manual. Unless someone wants to pay me msrp plus what I paid...