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@WONT TAP What should we expect for pricing? Thanks!

The only measurable difference would be the carbon fiber seats so the car should in theory be slightly lighter unless the sticker package makes up for the weight loss LOL

I brought my car in for its first oil change and I found this broken trim piece sitting on the steering column. The only thing that they did besides the oil change was inspect an electrical harness for a recently issued TSB.

Two months? Well, that should be just in time for Road Atlanta and Sebring so I guess I'll have to wait :)

I drove it to the local Cadillac store for the first oil change since the oil life was showing 0%. On the way I stopped at the local Acura store to remind them they missed out on an Integra Type-S sale because of the ridiculous $10k of Dealer Add-ons. It really drew a crowd at both stores...

For the street, I won't miss it. For the track...we'll see.... There's always Tapout :) The other option is a CT5 BW when the used prices drop unless I fall in love with the CT4 and decide to keep it.

Thanks Rob. Love the site and looking forward sharing the experience!

The previous owner was a car collector and had some trouble with comfort due to his height and the sunroof. Only 402 miles on the odometer. It arrived recently to replace my '19 Camaro ZLE 6MT. Great track car but not great for the roads around my home. I'm 5'11 so hopefully I should be okay...

Every car I've owned that added an Aluminum driveshaft felt a lot more responsive on the throttle than Steel. Carbon Fiber should be lighter and feel better than Aluminum.

I spoke with Corey last week and I think he's going to be a forum sponsor. I'll be the first to sign on to a group buy. Loved the ARC8's on my ZLE.

@loudmofo Thanks for posting the part number links to the red belts. They were the only option missing from my CT4 BW build that the original owner regretted. Do you have any tips for removal and install? I found a site that had everything for less than $175 shipped. Hopefully, parts should be...

I agree on several points, especially the engine and manual transmission. The PDK is a blast to drive and it would be fun on the track, but I still prefer three pedals. Here's the 2017 4S MSRP build sheet. It's crazy how quickly the prices have gone up post Covid. I paid less than MSRP. Option...

I can't remember the GM Executive, but I recall an interview early in the year where he was questioned about raising prices and he said to expect incentives to be reintroduced toward the end of the year if interest rates remained high.

Yep. I remember thinking Gen 6's for $74k was way too much and then a friend pointed me to the dealer in TX for ~$60k. I looked at comps with other models and brands. Drove the more expensive Corvette, GT350 R, Cayman GT4, Cayman S, and then spoke with a few owners. Everyone that had a Camaro...

@mfgmike Thank you for sharing. You did a lot better than me several years ago. Looks like things are finally getting somewhat back to normal for cars that have been sitting. I'm happy to see dealers feeling a bit of pain after convincing people to pay crazy ADM's. A little karma is nice. I...

I can't justify $100k+ for what it is. I do miss the sound and torque of the Camaro's LT4 but the CT5 BW doesn't have the upscale interior feel befitting the price. My Panamera 4S was $110k and it feels like it. I'll wait and pick up a used '22 when the prices with PDR, CF1, and High...

I'd say it's not special enough with the exception of the paint that is amazing. Tan seats...meh, no sunroof = good for me but many want one. Unfortunately, not many major options other than paint, seats, and climate. No HUD, PDR, CF1 or CF2, etc... I'm surprised it wasn't closer to MSRP, but...

As the title says, I'm excited to get my CT4-V Blackwing on the track and Apex makes some awesome wheels that would work out great. There are even more options for CT5-V BW owners so let's see some! Thank you!

People want what they can't have. The Camaro and CT4&5 BW's will level out and go back up after production stops. Look at what happened with the Chevy SS and similar cars, especially manuals, but that's the nature of cars that have something special or nostalgic.

Pre-Covid the Camaro's were not selling. GM did their annual 15-20% end of year discount to get the cars off the lots. It kills me how many people are paying ridiculous prices for vehicles. Dealer sales staff think the public are fools and the manufacturers are killing it with record profits...