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    Stopped in at Bunnin Chevrolet/Cadillac today to chat with some of my pals there and learned that they just took an order for an ATS-V from someone who read about the car on this Blog and then wanted one.

    That's awesome.

    Glad to see interest in "A Little-V Blog" is growing.

    Whoever you are...I know you'll enjoy the car!

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    Thanks for the great info Hib. Yeah noticed the battery situation awhile back. WTH were they thinking...? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hib Halverson View Post
    Stopped in at Bunnin Chevrolet/Cadillac today to chat with some of my pals there and learned that they just took an order for an ATS-V from someone who read about the car on this Blog and then wanted one.

    That's awesome.

    Glad to see interest in "A Little-V Blog" is growing.

    Whoever you are...I know you'll enjoy the car!
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    On Saturday the 7th of Nov. I ordered my ATS-V at Bunnin in Santa Barbara. I've been following the ATS-V since Nov 2013. Back then the rumors were flying thick and fast. What will its name be? which V8 will it have? what! no V8, it'll have a 3.6 V6, but it'll be a turbo, no it'll be a 3.0 V6 dual turbo (thicker cyl walls for higher boost pressure) will Recaros be std? etc. Then along came the 2014 LA car show and they finally settled on a name for the car, the HP went from 455 to 464 and the top speed from 185 mph to 189.


    Recently when they finally started to show-up at local dealers , I visited a couple here in Ventura co. But they only wanted to sell me what they had on the lot, no interest in ordering the car I wanted (if I'm spending this much $$ I expect to get what I want). They always had some excuse, limited production, low allotment etc.


    I had previously read your positive experience with Bunnin and by chance I was referred to Bunnin's general manager by a family member. The GM called me and said Juan would call me. Juan called; I told him I knew what I wanted, about 15 min later I got an Email with an attached window sticker with all the details. The next morning I drove up to Bunnin, a few min later Juan "pushed the Button" and out popped order #SZXTV5 for a Blk, Coupe, auto, lux pkg, safety/ security pkg, std seats (I like them), std wheels (didn't like the option wheels, why spend $$ on wheels I'll replace later) plus a few other minor options. I'm waiting for that call telling me my ATS-V is ready for me to pick up. It's been a long haul following this car for 2 years.


    About me? I grew up in San Fernando Valley, liked cars with forced induction. Aerospace engineer moved to Ventura Co. married a couple of times, had lots of cars, but liked forced induction most of all. My toy is a 1996 turbocharged Mitsubishi eclipse, aka DSM (Diamond Star Motor co) built in Normal Ill. Mine is very stealth, but much modified, even passes CA. smog check. They, along with the EVO's are amazing cars that have time and time again blown away more powerful cars. The AWD Eclipse's are hard to beat out of the hole and can do the 1/4 in the high 7's at 190+ mph, that's a lot for a 120 cu in. 4 banger.

    Anticipated modifications? Water injection, it doesn't modify the engine, just let's run like it does on those cool foggy mornings with all that moisture suspended in the air and you say wow! I wish it ran like this all the time. Possibly a tune also

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    Hey there, "madjack", welcome to the ATS-V community.

    You mention water injection...now, are you going to use water/alcohol injection or just water? Also, what system are you considering?

    Good hunting...for M3s that is.

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    Ordered my car @ Bunnin on a Saturday, 7th of November. Friday 20th of November, I contacted Juan at Bunnin and was told my car has been assigned a "Broadcast Code" of 3400. Now the definition I have for code 3400 is "Order broadcasted for production, loaded on assembly plant computers". Alongside there's the following note " should take about 24 man hours to build." Nooo way, can't be true, 10 working days since order, no point in me getting all excited.

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    For those who haven't been reading the thread on dyno testing started by "Djason", take a look it's pretty interesting.

    While I'm into performance enhancements just as much as anyone else, I'm not rushing around the shop yelling "More power, Scotty!" just yet.

    Yeah, I've seen ATS-V chassis dyno tests around the Internet along, "Djason's" testing thread here on the V-Net and I've downloaded and read my LF4 engine controls calibration and I agree–GM has "left some stuff on the table" as far as calibration, but for now, performance-wise, I'm happy with the car as it is. A good part of that is because my Wife and I, also, own a few Corvettes and two of them, a 2012 Z06/Z07 and a 1971 Big-Block Coupe with a blown motor, are occupying my hot rodding time right now, so, as far as the ATS-V goes, other than putting an Odyssey Battery in the car, installing some colder Denso Iridium Power spark plugs, possibly some different air filters and changing the trans fluid to a new Dexron 6 synthetic ATF the Joe Gibbs Driven brand is developing, I don't have any immediate plans to increase the performance of my LF4 beyond what I've already done with Gibbs Driven LS30 engine oil and Gibbs Driven 75W110 gear lubricant in my ATS-V's rear drive axle. With LS30, the Joe Gibbs Racing folks and I have begun an oil analysis program. At every oil change, Gibbs Driven will have a sample of LS30 I supply analyzed by "Carolina CAT" a Caterpillar Dealer down in North Carolina which runs an oil analysis laboratory. Each time we sample the oil, I'll report on the findings

    I am getting ready to do some "convenience and durability mods" to "Pearl the Bimmer Buster". The first is the application of paint protection film (PPF) to the car's front end, sideview mirrors and rocker panels. Some call this a "Clear Bra". The PPF I'm going to use is made by Xpel Technologies Corporation of San Antonio, Texas. For a number of years 3M's "Scotchcal" owned the PPF market but nothing stops the march of technology and in recent years, the Xpel people, though a combination of a better product, a more varied product line and marketing more responsive to the needs of their dealers and installers, Xpel has become the market leader in paint protection film installations on high-end applications such as Corvettes, Cadillac V-Series and other performance cars.

    The Xpel product we're going to use on Pearl is called "Ultimate" and is one of four brands of PPF that Xpel markets. XPEL's ULTIMATE PPF provides a new level durability and clarity not previously available in the market. One reason for this is Ultimate's proprietary "four-layer" design. According to Xpel's web site, these layers are as follows:
    1) 0.5-mil low-surface-energy urethane clear coast
    2) 6-mil polyurethane formulated for memory when it's stretched
    3) 1.6-mil clear acrylic copolymer which is engineered to stick on automotive exterior finishes but also have rework- and removal-ability.
    4) 2 mil polyester release liner.

    With its low surface energy, ULTIMATE tends to "shed" contaminants that may stain or yellow other PPFs. In addition, the clear coat employs special elastomeric polymers that "heal" over time eliminating swirl marks and other fine scratches without having to do anything.

    The product has a 10-year warranty against, yellowing, cracking, peeling, staining, and hazing, and this warranty covers parts and labor. In the vast majority of situations, Xpel ULTIMATE is not a DIY product. Xpel has a network of factory-trained and experienced installers who apply it's products and in most cases we recommend those installers do the work.

    Next Tuesday, we're taking "Pearl the Bimmer Buster" to Transhine Auto Detailing in Whitter, California to have Xpel PPF installed. Transhine, run by long-time PPF installer, Bill DeBever, has been doing paint protection film installations on my project vehicles for the last seven years. DeBever's Transhine has been in the PPF installation business since the process was introduced to the automotive market in the early '00s. I'll have more info and a few installation photos to post after the installation is finished.

    The other accessories I'm going to put on my ATS-V are an assortment of products made by WeatherTech, but before I get into that, I should disclose that I made a post about WeatherTech products on another Cadillac forum and some members there felt I was shilling for the WeatherTech brand. In fact, I don't for McNeil IP LLC, the company which makes and markets WeatherTech Products nor does McNeil pay me to endorse their stuff.

    The only reason I talk about them in this Blog is I've used them for a number of years in my other cars. I like their practicality, their durability and that the vast majority of them are made in USA. For ATS-V owners looking for floor mats and the other products McNeil makes, I think the WeatherTech brand makes good sense.

    For my ATS-V, I've ordered a set of WeatherTech Floor Liners. A Floor Liner is a very durable plastic "insert" which goes into the footwells of an ATS-V or other car. They fit very precisely and are just the thing for a car that's in daily driver service or is used for long road trips. For people who like the feeling or appearance of carpets, Floor Liners are not a good choice. In fact, on the other Cadillac forum there was even one member who said that he felt that they were unattractive and weren't appropriate for a car like a Cadillac. Actually...I can understand that viewpoint and accept there are people who would see a Floor Liner as an abomination in a luxury automobile.

    But, that's not me. I like WeatherTech Floor Liners partially because of the sort of "industrial look" they give the footwels. I also like them because they make the interior of a car which is in daily use much easier to keep clean. If a Floor Liner gets dirty, muddy or full of debris, you just lift it out, flip it over shake it and put it back in. Once I go to sell the car, if I so choose, I can take the Floor Liner out, and have the carpet underneath in excellent condition. I put the OE floor mats back in an–viola–instant increase in asking price because the floors look so good. We also going to put a WeatherTech Cargo Mat in the trunk. Say we go over to Home Depot to buy some stuff to plant in the yard. If we get some dirt on the truck floor, we pull out the Cargo Mat, shake off the dirt and put it back in.

    Another WeatherTech product I've used for years on our other vehicles is "LampGuard". They are adhesive-backed sections of thick Urethane film which go on the exterior of the headlamp assemblies. They prevent oxidation along with damage from small stones, gravel and other road debris. When you consider the amount of work it takes to restore a plastic headlamp assembly or the cost of replacing them if they get "sand blasted", WeatherTech LampGards are cheap insurance.

    A new WeatherTech product I decided to try for the first time in my ATS-V is called a "TechShade". At first when the McNeil people told me about these things I was skeptic because you can buy folding, reflective shades for windshield from lots of sources for a lot less money. But then I was reading on the WeatherTech web site that these are a custom fit and that they cool in the summer then, in places which get really cold in the winter, can be flipped over to reverse side which absorbs heat in cold weather and can reduce and, in come cases, even prevent frost build-up. Admittedly, where I live, it almost never gets cold enough for frost to form on the glass, but I like the idea of a custom-fitted sun shade. When deployed, the TechShade looks a hell of a lot better than the first universal fit shade I bought at a department store. Plus, the quality of the materials WeatherTech uses appear to be much better than what's used in a mass-marketed, universal fit product.

    So...Xpel and WeatherTech are my ATS-V shopping spree for this week.
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    Agree with everything in your post Hal...I'm not in a huge hurry to start modding but I see somethings that an be improved on pretty easily and hate to see so much left on the table. After my track rental in December I'll probably start with the tune and DP's. I'll wait for a good, quality CAI that I hope my guys at Motorsport Technologies will bring to market. You're right I won't trust just anyone with tuning the car. The LF4 is a different animal for sure.

    One thing I've noticed though...I don't like the inconsistency I feel at different times during changing weather conditions, air quality, etc. It's more pronounced than I remember any of my previous FI cars to be. Today is a great example. PERFECT day here in Houston. Low humidity and in the 40's when I woke up. Took the car for a spin later in the morning. Was in the low to mid 50's. Got all the op temps up and made a few hits. Saw 10lbs of boost max on several passes. I was like WTH? Its seems the ECU is reading the better air quality, DA (I'm at sea level), etc. and pulls back on the reigns a bit which is ridiculous IMO.

    I understand the "marketing" behind the cars being able to make the same power at sea level and then in higher elevations and lower air quality but come on...why hinder the cars abilities when and where it should be making its best numbers?

    Not sure if that's the case but it sure seems like it to me. Would love to see a consistent 18-20lbs of boost every time I'm in the car. The most I've ever seen is 14 and I think touched 15 once a couple weeks back but never held 14 or 15lbs. Usually settles in around 12lbs. Tune, DP's and CAI should give me what I'm looking for and still keep perfect drivability.

    I'll be doing the Xpel clear bra next week as well. Had great luck with it on my Z06.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madjack View Post
    Ordered my car @ Bunnin on a Saturday, 7th of November. Friday 20th of November, I contacted Juan at Bunnin and was told my car has been assigned a "Broadcast Code" of 3400. Now the definition I have for code 3400 is "Order broadcasted for production, loaded on assembly plant computers". Alongside there's the following note " should take about 24 man hours to build." Nooo way, can't be true, 10 working days since order, no point in me getting all excited.
    My guess is you are not going to have to wait nearly as long as some of use who ordered cars last Spring. I think part of the long delay for my car and others was they were pretty early in production and GM had some "bugs" to work out of ATS-V production.

    Keep us updated on how your order progresses. While my car was on-order, I found Juan Miller very good at communicating the car's status to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djason View Post
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    Not sure if that's the case but it sure seems like it to me. Would love to see a consistent 18-20lbs of boost every time I'm in the car. The most I've ever seen is 14 and I think touched 15 once a couple weeks back but never held 14 or 15lbs. Usually settles in around 12lbs. Tune, DP's and CAI should give me what I'm looking for and still keep perfect drivability.

    I'll be doing the Xpel clear bra next week as well. Had great luck with it on my Z06.
    I don't think you'll ever see 18-20 from stock turbos and their associated hardware. The people at GM Powertrain told me the turbochargers are capible of maximum boost of 18-psi but that's not what they can do when installed on the engine. That said, proper calibration will help as will a well-engineered air filter assembly and associated plumbing.

    As for those down-pipes...if we're talking about the ones discussed by NewEra Performance, they don't have cats and any set of down pipes with no cats is going to make for a significant increase. Unfortunately, where I live, in the People's Demokratic Republik of Kalifornia, going without cats is asking for trouble. In fact, it's looking like some of the "fall-out" from the VW diesel scandal is that California may restart it's program of unannounced, roadside emissions testing using remote sensing devices on freeway onramps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hib Halverson View Post
    I don't think you'll ever see 18-20 from stock turbos and their associated hardware. The people at GM Powertrain told me the turbochargers are capible of maximum boost of 18-psi but that's not what they can do when installed on the engine. That said, proper calibration will help as will a well-engineered air filter assembly and associated plumbing.

    As for those down-pipes...if we're talking about the ones discussed by NewEra Performance, they don't have cats and any set of down pipes with no cats is going to make for a significant increase. Unfortunately, where I live, in the People's Demokratic Republik of Kalifornia, going without cats is asking for trouble. In fact, it's looking like some of the "fall-out" from the VW diesel scandal is that California may restart it's program of unannounced, roadside emissions testing using remote sensing devices on freeway onramps.
    LOL...good ole' Cali. My gf just moved back to Texas after 15 years in the Woodland Hills area (San Fernando Valley). I absolutely loved visiting the area but don't think I could live/afford to be out there and live as comfortably as I do here in the good ole state of Texas!

    How the hell can Mr. Leno get away with driving/registering/insuring all of his collection when we all know most would never pass Cali emissions? Wait never mind...lol

    I see Mike (NewEra) was able to get 18-20lbs from his tuning, DP's and CAI. And possibly a better set of cold pipes as the stock ones may tend to collapse under that much boost. Looks like it holds 18-20lbs through the runs so it seems doable with the stock turbos. If I can get at least 16-18 lbs consistently I think I'd be happy with that. Not interested in finding the limits of the stock set up.

    Once I get everything lined out after my track event in December I'll be posting more findings and of course some dyno numbers to compare. 550rw is my goal and seems to be very doable with stock drivability.

    That would be close to CTS-V territory in a smaller, more nimble, better handling Caddy. Should be FUN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djason View Post
    LOL...good ole' Cali. My gf just moved back to Texas after 15 years in the Woodland Hills area (San Fernando Valley). I absolutely loved visiting the area but don't think I could live/afford to be out there and live as comfortably as I do here in the good ole state of Texas!

    How the hell can Mr. Leno get away with driving/registering/insuring all of his collection when we all know most would never pass Cali emissions? Wait never mind...lol
    I've been to the Big-Dog garage a couple of times and from what I remember of the collection, the stuff that is likely unable to pass is probably exempt, either because of the age or because they are specially constructed vehicles. As for the ones which are not exempt, in state with a strong anti-car and anti-wealth political system like California, I doubt Leno has any "special deal" that gets him out of the Smog Check. My guess is the few of them which are not exempt and won't pass are not currently registered. If someone is driving them and gets stopped, he can well-afford to just pay the fine.

    I see Mike (NewEra) was able to get 18-20lbs from his tuning, DP's and CAI.
    Interesting. I was led to believe by GM Powertrain that those turbos were limited to 18-psi by hardware but I may have misunderstood the Powertrain guys.

    And possibly a better set of cold pipes as the stock ones may tend to collapse under that much boost. Looks like it holds 18-20lbs through the runs so it seems doable with the stock turbos.
    When you say the cold pipes tend to collapse...what do you mean by that?

    If I can get at least 16-18 lbs consistently I think I'd be happy with that. Not interested in finding the limits of the stock set up.
    Could have fooled me.


    Once I get everything lined out after my track event in December I'll be posting more findings and of course some dyno numbers to compare.
    I'm looking forward to hearing about your track day. Which track do you run?

    550rw is my goal and seems to be very doable with stock drivability. That would be close to CTS-V territory in a smaller, more nimble, better handling Caddy. Should be FUN!
    550 at the wheels is just shy of 650 at the flywheel or nearly a 40% increase. My guess is that's unachievable unless you come up with a better high-pressure fuel pump.

    What kind of gasoline will you run at that power level?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hib Halverson View Post
    550 at the wheels is just shy of 650 at the flywheel or nearly a 40% increase. My guess is that's unachievable unless you come up with a better high-pressure fuel pump.

    What kind of gasoline will you run at that power level?
    Those kinds of gains are not uncommon in modern engines, but most everyone's experience is not with direct injection, so we will have to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hib Halverson View Post
    I've been to the Big-Dog garage a couple of times and from what I remember of the collection, the stuff that is likely unable to pass is probably exempt, either because of the age or because they are specially constructed vehicles.
    Jealous...very jealous. Might have to hit you up next time I'm in Cali to get the inside scoop. Would love to tour his place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hib Halverson View Post
    Interesting. I was led to believe by GM Powertrain that those turbos were limited to 18-psi by hardware but I may have misunderstood the Powertrain guys.

    Yeah Mike has seen 21 or 22 lbs but backed off as fuel pressure seemed to drop a bit so he backed it down to 18-20.


    When you say the cold pipes tend to collapse...what do you mean by that?

    Cold side meaning all the intake side (factory intake tubing)



    Could have fooled me.


    LOL...


    I'm looking forward to hearing about your track day. Which track do you run?

    I'll be at the former Houston Raceway Park now Royal Purple Raceway.



    550 at the wheels is just shy of 650 at the flywheel or nearly a 40% increase. My guess is that's unachievable unless you come up with a better high-pressure fuel pump.

    Looks like it's very achievable with what I've seen using the stock fuel system. I'll know for sure in a few weeks.



    What kind of gasoline will you run at that power level?

    Good ole' 93 oct. We seem to think Meth will be a good addition down the road as well. May look into that before the Texas summer rolls back around.
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    Yesterday, I got my WeatherTech FloorLiners (PN 444971, 444972) and CargoLiner (PN 40594) installed. Actually, WeatherTech's web site does list the 2016 ATS-V in its application choices. I ordered them for a standard 2015 ATS. Turns out, the footwells for an ATS and an ATS-V are the same. They are available in two colors, black and tan. We ordered black. The installation was simple. We took them out of the boxes and dropped them into the front and rear footwells. The fit was perfect!

    Here's the full set:
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    Here's how the a FloorLiner in the driver's footwell looks:
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    ...and here's how the CargoLiner looks:
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    I, also, decided to try a "TechShade" from WeatherTech (PN TS0261). I was skeptical of why someone needs a sunshade which costs 50 bucks, but I knew, if I wasn't satisfied, I could just send it back. After installing it, I'm a believer. First, they are an exact fit for the windshield. There is no uncovered glass nor any sloppy-looking overlap typical of universal or "semi-universal" fit shades. There's no acordian folds hanging down, either. When you unroll the TechShade, it fits flat on the glass. Finally, the product is "dual-mode". It can be used reflective-side-out in the summer to reduce heat radiation into the interior, or, in the winter, if you live where it freezes at night, you can use it black-side-out to absorb heat and resist or eliminate the formation of frost or ice on the windshield.

    Here's how the TechShade looks on an ATS-V:
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    I'm pretty happy with how the WeatherTech stuff worked out. Let me know what you think.

    As for the Xpel Ultimate paint protection film...well...I had to cancel my Xpel installation appointment at Transhine Auto Detailing due to a photographic equipment failure I discovered the night before. This piece of equipment is out of service being repaired and will be ready in a week. We rescheduled the Xpel installation for the 8th of December.
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    Looks great Hib...thought about something similar but decided on another set of custom Lloyds floor and trunk mats with the V series logo. We don't get the sloppy winter weather here in S. Texas as many do up north. Was super happy with them in my Z06.
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